Cruise control

[Richard Hamilton]

I think your problem is only with the coding.  The instrument cluster and DME can be coded without any wiring connections.  Make sure the order code is stored in the DME vehicle data first.  Then go back and do a complete control module search before coding the cluster and DME.  I'll PM you the wiring diagram.

[Nick_USA]

Assuming your 2004 S is a LHD car the order code is 986320 if however it is a RHD car the correct order code would be 986321

[evan9eleven]

Thanks for the replies guys, and the diagram Richard. I'm wired up as shown, so hopefully it is just the coding issue as you say. I'll make sure to get the order code in the DME first and do a full search of the modules. Crossing fingers I've learned enough this time around to get it right!

 

Nick-- mine is a LHD car, thanks for the tip though, that will surely help out an RHD owner reading this in the future.

[Richard Hamilton]

Just another note on coding.  If you have an Anniversary Edition (Order Code 986420/986421) do not enter that code, as it won't be accepted.  Use 986320/986321 and it will work fine.

[evan9eleven]

40 minutes ago, Richard Hamilton said:

Just another note on coding.  If you have an Anniversary Edition (Order Code 986420/986421) do not enter that code, as it won't be accepted.  Use 986320/986321 and it will work fine.

 

Good to know also! Not an anniversay edition in my case.

[evan9eleven]

Tried the coding again, and I'm afraid it was still a no-go. Same as before: when I click the button to code cruise in the cluster, nothing happens. The button animates, but there is no feedback or progress-- just nothing.

 

As you will see in the pictures (sorry they are so bad) the order code is correct (it was already in place) and cruise shows as activated in the DME. As reported above the clutch switch is brand new. I tried cycling the ignition on and off, disconnecting and reconnecting the durametric several times, and waiting several minutes after trying the cluster coding button to see if it just needed time. I also tried deactivating cruise in the DME and then reactivating it before attempting the cluster coding again.

 

I've run out of ideas folks!

 

 

 

[Richard Hamilton]

I would email Durametric, to see what they can suggest, but I think you would be best finding someone with a PST2 or PIWIS tester.  It should not matter if the wiring & stalk are in place or not, you should be able to code it.  I have done it both ways, and it has always accepted the coding.  However, I prefer to code it after everything has been wired up, so that I can check all the connections and switches with the Input Signals menu on PIWIS.

[evan9eleven]

Thanks Richard. The kicker is that I had the car in to a Porsche Center, and they tried for an hour and a half to get this coded the first time around before giving up and telling me it must be my wiring. What exactly they tried I don't know as this was in Spain and the official P-dealer workshops there don't let you in to hang out while they work. Which is why I use a friend's indi shop and Durametric now.

 

I'll email Durametric and see if they have any tips. Maybe one of my club buddies in Norway has a PST2 or PIWIS I can borrow.

[irb26]

On 25/07/2017 at 9:45 PM, evan9eleven said:

Thanks Richard. The kicker is that I had the car in to a Porsche Center, and they tried for an hour and a half to get this coded the first time around before giving up and telling me it must be my wiring. What exactly they tried I don't know as this was in Spain and the official P-dealer workshops there don't let you in to hang out while they work. Which is why I use a friend's indi shop and Durametric now.

 

I'll email Durametric and see if they have any tips. Maybe one of my club buddies in Norway has a PST2 or PIWIS I can borrow.

Hi

I don't know if you ever sorted this issue or not - but i had an 03 986 which was displaying similar problems.

No response from the durametric. I have found it isn't too reliable at coding the 03/04 vehicles (my opinion!!)

And using PIWIS the cluster would not code either - it just told me to run the full module search despite having already done this.

In the end I solved it by using PIWIS by using the 996 menus, where strangely the cluster was then recognised. I was then able to code it and everything returned to normal.

I put it down to having been coded incorrectly from installation or having some rogue coding put into it at some point.

Thanks

[evan9eleven]

Finally I can report that my cruise control is working! It only took 3 years... so it goes when the car and I are in 2 different countries and access to the Durametric Pro is an hour's drive away.

 

Owen at Durametric was quick to respond to an email asking for help. I explained that there was no response when trying to code the cluster, and he sent me detailed instructions for making a log file for them to troubleshoot with. The log allowed them to solve the issue: the version of the software I was running (6.5.5.5) wouldn't work, so he sent a link to download a new version, 6.5.5.8. Using this version, I clicked to activate the cruise control in the cluster and the coding started (message shown in lower left corner) after 10 seconds or so I got a message that the coding was successful. And now everything works!

 

One small thing: the green cruise lamp does not light. Not with the ignition-on lamp test and not when cruise is activated. This is a facelift car (2004 S) so the cluster is lit by LEDs, and I  have confirmed that there is an LED in that spot. So the light in this model does not seem to indicate cruise being coded or functioning or not. No big deal, I'm just happy the cruise works, I couldn't care less about the green light!

 

I hope this can help someone else, and thanks again for all the input everyone.

[Richard Hamilton]

I have coded several clusters for Cruse Control, including 2003 & 2004 models with a PIWIS tester, and never had any problems with the green cruise light.  However, I do tend to use a PIWIS1 or PST2 when working on 986's.  Both systems were based on the Bosch software (for Bosch control units), whereas PIWIS2 was made when they started switching over to Siemens (for the 9x1).  I know there were several cases of the early versions of the PIWIS2 software bricking instruments clusters when activating OBC and Cruise, so perhaps there are still anomalies.

[Crickle]

On 4/21/2012 at 10:49 AM, curand said:

OK. So the two horns could be broken, or there is no current to the horns even though I hear a relay clicking when pressing on the steering wheel. I find it unlikely that both horns would break at the same time. I'm having the reprogramming done on monday. Maybe that will make it work again.

Both my horns were in-op, due to their stupid positioning.
They are facing "UP" with is perfect for collecting and holding water.
They just drown, both at the same time.
I put in horns from a Lincoln Town Car this time.

 

[99-911]

Hello everyone

 

big thanks for all contributors to this valuable thread.

 

I'm planning this dual retrofit for my 03 Boxster S, my question is: would my current cluster screen (large digits only) be suitable for the OBC ?

I've seen several photos for detailed OBC menus (small pixelated letters & numbers) so just wanna make sure that using a 4-stalk switch + coding will be enough to have full OBC functionality on my current cluster screen ..

 

your input is appreciated ,Thank you

[Richard Hamilton]

45 minutes ago, 99-911 said:

Hello everyone

 

big thanks for all contributors to this valuable thread.

 

I'm planning this dual retrofit for my 03 Boxster S, my question is: would my current cluster screen (large digits only) be suitable for the OBC ?

I've seen several photos for detailed OBC menus (small pixelated letters & numbers) so just wanna make sure that using a 4-stalk switch + coding will be enough to have full OBC functionality on my current cluster screen ..

 

your input is appreciated ,Thank you

Yes, your current instrument cluster will give you OBC if re-coded.  You will still have the 7-segment OBC display, not the "dot matrix" display of models with factory OBC, but you will get the OBC functions.  They will appear below the existing two lines.

7-segment:

 

Dot Matrix
 

Edited May 30, 2019 by Richard Hamilton

[99-911]

21 minutes ago, Richard Hamilton said:

Yes, your current instrument cluster will give you OBC if re-coded.  You will still have the 7-segment OBC display, not the "dot matrix" display of models with factory OBC, but you will get the OBC functions.  They will appear below the existing two lines.

7-segment:

 

Dot Matrix 31.72 kB · 0 downloads
 

 

 

Thank you Richard, highly appreciate the very prompt response..

 

Any OBC functions gonna be compromised in the "segmented" display set-up ?

[Richard Hamilton]

The menus are different, and you won't get some features of the dot matrix cluster shown in your 2003 owners manual.

 

You will get:

Range on remaining fuel
Outside air temperature (check the sensor is fitted)
Speed gong
Average speed
Average fuel consumption

Still worth having, for the minimal extra cost and effort.

[99-911]

 

On May 31, 2019 at 11:21 AM, Richard Hamilton said:

The menus are different, and you won't get some features of the dot matrix cluster shown in your 2003 owners manual.

 

You will get:

Range on remaining fuel
Outside air temperature (check the sensor is fitted)
Speed gong
Average speed
Average fuel consumption

Still worth having, for the minimal extra cost and effort.

 

Thanks again Richard for the valuable input..

[peter-997]

Hi.

Searching for the "order code" of a 2003 Boxster S Tiptronic LHD RoW (German Version).

Is it also 986320?

Is there a overview or list of all order codes?

 

[Loren]

1 hour ago, peter-997 said:

Hi.

Searching for the "order code" of a 2003 Boxster S Tiptronic LHD RoW (German Version).

Is it also 986320?

Is there a overview or list of all order codes?

 

That is correct.

[Richard Hamilton]

11 hours ago, peter-997 said:

Is there a overview or list of all order codes?

 

Here is a list I compiled:

986:

986310 – 986
986320 - 986 S
986330 - 986 Anniversary * (see note)
986311 - 986 RHD
986321 - 986S RHD
986331 - 986 Anniversary RHD * (see note)
 

996:

996110 - C2
996111 - C2 RHD
996120 – Anniversary (40 Year)
996121 – Anniversary (40 Year) RHD
996210 – Targa
996211 – Targa RHD
996310 – C2 Cabriolet
996311 – C2 Cabriolet RHD
996410 – C4
996411 - C4 RHD
996420 – Turbo
996421 – Turbo RHD
996430 – C4S
996431 – C4S RHD
996440 – Millennium
996441 – Millennium RHD
996610 – C4 Cabriolet
996611 – C4 Cabriolet RHD
996630 - C4S Cabriolet
996631 – C4S Cabriolet RHD
996810 - GT3
996811 – GT3 RHD
996840 – GT2
996841 – GT2 RHD
996850 – GT3RS
996851 – GT3RS RHD

Note * - I coded a 986 Anniversary RHD using 986331 but it failed to activate cruise.  I had to use 986321, after which it worked perfectly.

Edited January 10, 2022 by Richard Hamilton

[peter-997]

Noob question of Piwis.

How can I save my coding of the ECUs?

I was in DME unit and want to save the coding. The system confirmed thats it is saved.

But where I can find the file?

Is it possible to export this file? 

 

[Richard Hamilton]

Piwis 1?  If so, go to DME>Vehicle Data.  Press F4 to Save.  Then press PrtScn to get to the Logs Page.  Open Working Log and you will see the vehicle data printout, which you can print by pressing F5.

 

If it is Piwis 2 or 3, just run a VAL.  An OBD VAL will give you coding of DME and Tiptronic.  A Service VAL will give coding of all control modules.

Edited January 10, 2022 by Richard Hamilton

[peter-997]

1 hour ago, Richard Hamilton said:

Do you have a screenshoh where I can make a VAL?

 

If it is Piwis 2 or 3, just run a VAL.  An OBD VAL will give you coding of DME and Tiptronic.  A Service VAL will give coding of all control modules.

 

[Richard Hamilton]

From the Overview screen, press F7 for Additional Menu.  At that point you will be asked if you want to create a VAL.  Choose 'No at this point.

On the Additional Menu screen, choose Vehicle Analysis Log (VAL.  There you can select OBD VAL or Service VAL.  Choose one, press F8, and follow the on-screen prompts.  At the end (after confirming the VIN), you get the choice to select a log type - Choose Miscellaneous.  Then press F12 to go to Report Management.  Select the log, and press F10 for Print.   Print it out to PDF or a connected printer.

[peter-997]

48 minutes ago, Richard Hamilton said:

From the Overview screen, press F7 for Additional Menu.  At that point you will be asked if you want to create a VAL.  Choose 'No at this point.

On the Additional Menu screen, choose Vehicle Analysis Log (VAL.  There you can select OBD VAL or Service VAL.  Choose one, press F8, and follow the on-screen prompts.  At the end (after confirming the VIN), you get the choice to select a log type - Choose Miscellaneous.  Then press F12 to go to Report Management.  Select the log, and press F10 for Print.   Print it out to PDF or a connected printer.

Thank You very much.

However, this is not a backup of my devices or is it possible to play this setup back into the ECUs later in case coding failed.