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Posted (edited)

Hello everyone, I haven't been around because... the cars have been sitting. Since fall 2019.
In an effort to actually get SOME use out of them, I had the odd idea to at least get ONE moving and I was wondering what a reasonable order of operations is.
The car was parked in mid november of 2019 with the tires topped up to 50 PSI, in a garage under a cover - where it currently sits. Battery was taken out of it at that time, but no other special considerations were employed because, well, I was planning to take it back out for Easter 2020. That.. didn't quite work out.

So now the question is : what to do? I was going to move it to the lift ... somehow (that's going to be exciting...) and at the very least change engine oil and filter before even ATTEMPTING to start it.
Anything else I should consider? For reference, there are 61k mi on the car, it's one of the last produced and I've had it since early 2008. Manual gearbox. To the best of my knowledge, the car is 100% as it left the factory back in late '04 save for engine oil, oil filter and air filter - and brake fluid.
That means that yes, in all likelihood trans fluids and coolant are the factory fill and while I was TOLD spark plugs had been replaced just before turning it over to me, I never actually got written proof of that in the stack of receipts from Porsche in CA that came with it. Belts, idlers... should (?) also all be factory.
In my head, I see this as a two-stage process, i.e. first do the 'essential' work, get it back on the road for 50-100 miles, then put it back on the lift and do .. the rest (including driver side glass regulator, finally addressing the rear spoiler that stopped working on the way back from CA in 2008... etc).

Ideas, suggestions, comments welcome.

Edited by nmlss2006
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Posted

Plan on draining and replacing EVERY fluid in the car (oil, coolant, power steering fluid, brake fluid, gas, etc.) and replace the battery. Once that is done, pull the fuel pump fuse or relay and wind the engine into oil pressure. Reconnect the fuel pump and see if it will start.

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Posted

Thank you JFP, one question: I was contemplating the gas, which yes, is one of the things which are very much on my mind. The question is: Is there a reasonable way to drain it? Or, how bad is outright dropping the fuel tank to take a look inside with a borescope and see if it needs further cleaning?
The rest should be straightfoward (famous last words) and I do have a vacuum bleeder for the cooling system.
I'm somewhat worried by 'see if it will start', I have to say :).

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You can pump the gas out of the tank with an external pump, but the problem with seeing inside the tank is it is a split "saddle
" style tank, which will be a bear to get a camera to see all of the nooks and crannies.  Drain it, flush it with some fresh fuel, and you should be good to go.  Just add a large bottle of Techron to the new gas, along with a dose of Stabil. 

  • 3 months later...
Posted (edited)

Hello All.  It's been a while. I am having a similar problem. My 2002 S has sat for 1-2 years. The car ran perfectly before sitting. JFP,Should I take the same course of action? It's been frustrating getting to the bottom of this. So far I replaced the battery, added new gas, checked fuse C4, replaced ignition and fuel pump relays . Tried starting fluid and it started for a brief moment and died. Not too familiar with a multimeter but working on seeing if there's power to the pump itself. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

Edited by BoxSinit
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What currently passes for gasoline these days deteriorates fairly quickly if not stabilized with an additive.  That un-stabilized fuel can gum up injectors and just about everything else in the fuel system if it is allowed to sit for too long.  Probably your best plan of action is to see if the fuel system is functional; to do that, you need to check both the fuel pressure and delivery rate using the test port on the fuel rail and an appropriate fuel pressure test rig.

Posted

Thanks JFP. I guess I'm in a jam. Ive done a lot work on my car but not familiar with the testing stated above. Any tips? Do you think Chevron Techron would help?

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Posted

Techron works with working systems, systems with old fuel problems won't be helped at all.

 

If you do not have the testing equipment, you may be able to rent or borrow it from an auto parts store.  If you are uncomfortable running the tests, find someone in your area that is and can help you.  A good starting point would be to contact your local Porsche Club of America chapter and see who they recommend.

Posted

I'm going to try to tackle this myself.

 

I see a post of yours on another forum. Where is the shrader value to connect the fuel pressure gauge? I see a diagram but not sure exactly where it is in the engine bay.

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