Tequipment roll bar

[dj996]

Does anyone (Loren) have the actual Porsche instructions for the roll bar install. I have the Tequipment 4 point roll bar without the crossbar as I want to maintain use of the rear seats. I did a search and it seems like I need to use the Porsche instructions to do it right. TIA

Doug

[Loren]

The only instruction I have a re for the GT3 Club Sport bar. I think the 4 point bar is the same as the full roll cage (6 point) without the front section. Perhaps they are similar enough to help. I'll send you a PM.

[dj996]

Thanks!

[WolfgangK]

Hi Doug,

I don't think that the RollBar you are talking about is the same one Loren is refering to.

If I understood this correctly you want to install the Tequipment part which is available with or without the cross-member. If this is the case you can find a rather good description here:

http://www.renntech.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=695

The installation procedure should be the same for both bars.

Regards

Wolfgang

[dj996]

Hi Doug,

I don't think that the RollBar you are talking about is the same one Loren is refering to.

If I understood this correctly you want to install the Tequipment part which is available with or without the cross-member. If this is the case you can find a rather good description here:

http://www.renntech.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=695

The installation procedure should be the same for both bars.

Regards

Wolfgang

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Thanks Wolfgang!

[Loren]

dj996 - sorry I had forgotten about that write-up.

I guess I should pin it.

[aracerx]

having installed many factory tec bars.....There's still a bit of carefully grunted movements required for proper installation. BE CAREFUL OF CORRECT THREAD IN ON THE BOLTS!!! TAKE YOUR TIME ON THAT PARTICULAR ASPECT OF INSTALLATION-MARK

[dj996]

What are you referring to? Are the bolts prone to stripping out?

[Loren]

I think the issue is cross-threading.

[WolfgangK]

Loren is right, the risk is cross-threading.

I had this problem also with the lower seat belt screw and I messed it up :angry:

Everything has to be perfectly aligned before you try to screw it in..

Wolfgang

[dj996]

Thanks to C4S Surgeon we got the roll bar installed yesterday. What a *****, and that's coming from two guys with a lot of car racing experience behind us. Thanks also to Renntech and all the helpful posts on the topic, especially Wolfgang, it helped a lot. But even knowing all the pitfalls and being extremely careful we managed to screw up one of the mounting bolts. What a pain in the *** that was, thank goodness for tap and die sets. We ended up changing out the supplied bolts to all grade 8 bolts, much better quality with less propensity to cross thread.

The bar looks really nice after the install, plus I still have full access to the rear seats. I would definitely recommend the bar but I would not attempt the install solo unless you have lots of experience IMO.

Edited July 25, 2005 by dj996

[C4S Surgeon]

Anytime Doug, I'll order mine in the am then you can help me.

I think the poor quality bolts are the biggest obstacle.

[C4S Surgeon]

One thing I ws wondering before I do it on mine, is it really necessary to disconnect the battery, or is simply off/key out enough?

[karlooz]

Anytime Doug, I'll order mine in the am then you can help me.

I think the poor quality bolts are the biggest obstacle.

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i don't think it's the quality, rather its the length of the bolts. i ended up getting longer grade 8 bolts upon the recommendation in rockitman's write up and it was SOOOO EASY to get the seat belt bolts in.

i did the install myself following the instructions from rockitman and wolfgang. what made the install easy was making sure the plastic substructure was cut away.

it looks great. i have the crossbar version so i can use a harness but i do miss the access to the rear.

[C4S Surgeon]

Actually the grade 8 bolts we used were slightly longer come to think of it.

[dj996]

Carlos, do you recall the sizes of bolts used? I think it would be helpful for future installers, longer bolts would definitely be easier, ours were only slightly longer. How long did it take you?

Edited August 7, 2005 by dj996

[karlooz]

Carlos, do you recall the sizes of bolts used? I think it would be helpful for future installers, longer bolts would definitely be easier, ours were only slightly longer. How long did it take you?

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hey doug,

grade 8 - 7/16 fine thread bolts. i bought various lengths, 1/2"-3/4"-1"-1/2" longer than the oem bolts. if you can find 8.8 then even better. if you haven't yet, check this thread out rockitman's rollbar install. be sure to check out wolfgank's cutting template. THIS IS THE KEY for an easier install.

it took me about 3 hours for the install, solo.

[C4S Surgeon]

What's 8.8?

[Loren]

What's 8.8?

8.8 = 50 Tons per sq inch high tensile metric bolts

previous called "aircraft quality" or "aerospace quality". Beware of counterfeit bolts

[KevinC]

One thing I ws wondering before I do it on mine, is it really necessary to disconnect the battery, or is simply off/key out enough?

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Ignition off is not enough. (Air bag light will come on as a result of disconnecting the seat wiring connector.) Key out of ignition *is* sufficient to keep the airbag light from coming on.

[dj996]

Thanks guys, I ordered some grade 8 bolts from nutandbolts.com you can buy small quantities but a $20 minimum order. Oh well now I have lots of bolts. I'm gonna replace the bolts with longer ones to make re-installs much, much easier between track events.