2005 C2S Cab Oil in Exhaust tips

[Ashman1957]

A good friend asked me last week to have a look at a 2005 997.1 Carrera S Cab. I went to see the car, which had been traded in. It had 59,000 miles, the engine sounded good.. no tapping noises etc. When I mentioned borescoring, the salesman told me the car had been borescoped 🤥 & it was fine. I went to the back of the car and in both of the exhaust tips I found black oil residue. I told my mate it would be best to forget any idea of buying it.. £28,000 by the way.

Thoughts please. 

[jchapura]

I would have asked for more info/evidence from the salesman.

The service records.

What pre-sales work was done on the car.

Type of oil used at the oil changes.

The AOS-related crankcase vacuum.

The borescope video or pics.

The spark plug pics.

Type of climate in which the car has resided during its life.

Based on new info, I then might have had it PPI-ed.

All of this let's you negotiate from a better position.

(I'm surprised the salesman left the exhausts oily. Oversight? Hint to the unsuspecting customer? Just not knowledgeable about oil in the exhaust? After the new info was collected, I would have then asked the salesman specifically about the oily exhaust. Part of your discovery is to try to learn their ethical standard.)

 

[JFP in PA]

2 hours ago, Ashman1957 said:

A good friend asked me last week to have a look at a 2005 997.1 Carrera S Cab. I went to see the car, which had been traded in. It had 59,000 miles, the engine sounded good.. no tapping noises etc. When I mentioned borescoring, the salesman told me the car had been borescoped 🤥 & it was fine. I went to the back of the car and in both of the exhaust tips I found black oil residue. I told my mate it would be best to forget any idea of buying it.. £28,000 by the way.

Thoughts please. 

 

Even thinking about buying one of these vehicles without an totally independent pre purchase inspection by a shop with both considerable Porsche experience and Porsche specific diagnostic tools would be a total crap shoot.  A quality PPI is your last chance to avoid a financial black hole.............

 

You would be utterly amazed at what we have found while doing PPI's for customers; the stories would keep you awake at night 😮

[Ashman1957]

The car had literally been traded in the previous evening. They had not touched the car at all. I put my finger in the tip & the oil was ‘pitch black’. Having owned 3 Boxsters and a 911, I have never seen that in an exhaust before.

[JFP in PA]

Oil in any tail pipe is never a good sign of things to come..............

[Silver_TT]

Never have the same place you are buying the car from do the PPI and definitely never listen to a word the salesman says.  Odds are it has borescoring and someone “dumped it”…..never should be wet oil in the exhaust if the engine is healthy and operating in spec