Can a PSE exhaust be installed using an aftermarket valve controler kit ?

[Parrnan]

Hi.

I got a quote from a Porsche dealer to install a PSE (with the consol button and programming) for my 2014 Boxster S. It would be around $6,000 (canadian dollars), I consider that it is too expensive.

So I'm wondering if the PSE (the mufflers only without button in console and programming) can be installed using an after market valve controler kit like the Fabspeed one ? ($2,600 for PSE mufflers only, $300 Fabspeed valve controler kit, $400 to install. Total : $3,300

https://www.fabspeed.com/fabspeed-va...ontroller-kit/

In the Fabspeed kit info they tell "For use with Fabspeed Valvetronic Exhaust systems only". But in theory, I cannot see any reason why it would not work with the PSE.  A valve is a valve isn't it ?

 

Note: All aftermarket valvetronic exhausts work fine with PSE hardware (button in console and PSE valve controller), so why the other way (PSE with aftermarket valves controller) would not work.

Any idea ?

Edited February 17, 2021 by Parrnan

[Parrnan]

WOW, this thread is open since two days and not a single answer so far.  Seriously, nobody ever tried to install a PSE muffler using aftermarket valve controler !  It is a half cost job compared to a retrofit at a Porsche dealer, which make it an interesting option to evaluate.

Edited February 19, 2021 by Parrnan

[Loren]

I think you are asking about a modification no one has done.

In general people tend to stick with installs from one manufacturer.

[Parrnan]

Yes, it's what I think too.  

 

But to be honest I'm surprised, as a PSE retrofit at a Porsche dealership cost about $6,000 (canadian) when a PSE install (without the consol's PSE button and the button programming) at the local shop using an aftermarket valve controler unit (like the Fabspeed one) will cost about $3,300 (canadian).  Nearly half the price...  I'm surprised that no one ever tried that.  Considering that the Fabspeed valvetronic, or any other valved system, is a direct bolt-on for those who already have the PSE, you unplug the hoses from the PSE valves and plug them on the Fabspeed valvetronic's valves and it works fine, so why it would not work on the other way (PSE exhaust with Fabspeed valve controler using Fabspeed remote control to open or close the valves). In theory, I cannot see any reason why it would not work as fine.

Edited February 19, 2021 by Parrnan

[JFP in PA]

50 minutes ago, Parrnan said:

Yes, it's what I think too.  

 

But to be honest I'm surprised, as a PSE retrofit at a Porsche dealership cost about $6,000 (canadian) when a PSE install (without the consol's PSE button and the button programming) at the local shop using an aftermarket valve controler unit (like the Fabspeed one) will cost about $3,300 (canadian).  Nearly half the price...  I'm surprised that no one ever tried that.  Considering that the Fabspeed valvetronic, or any other valved system, is a direct bolt-on for those who already have the PSE, you unplug the hoses from the PSE valves and plug them on the Fabspeed valvetronic's valves and it works fine, so why it would not work on the other way (PSE exhaust with Fabspeed valve controler using Fabspeed remote control to open or close the valves). In theory, I cannot see any reason why it would not work as fine.

 

What you are overlooking is the simple fact that most PSE post delivery installations never hooked anything up as the default position for the valves is "loud", which is what people wanted the PSE for in the first place.  So who's valves are on the exhaust system is pretty much irrelevant.  We have probably installed a couple dozen PSE's over the years and I can only remember one that the owner wanted fully hooked up; and later even he eventually said activation of the valves was a waste of money.

[Parrnan]

1 hour ago, JFP in PA said:

 

What you are overlooking is the simple fact that most PSE post delivery installations never hooked anything up as the default position for the valves is "loud", which is what people wanted the PSE for in the first place.  So who's valves are on the exhaust system is pretty much irrelevant.  We have probably installed a couple dozen PSE's over the years and I can only remember one that the owner wanted fully hooked up; and later even he eventually said activation of the valves was a waste of money.

The default PSE position is LOUD !  This is a really good news, I was not aware of that !  That means that if the muffler valves are not connected to any valve controler (the PSE button in the console or an aftermarket one like the Fabspeed or the Soul ones) they will be by open (loud) by default.  So If I want to be able to close them I will only have to add an aftermarket valve controler and perform that easy installation to be able to open or close the valves by pressing a button on the remote control.

Edited February 19, 2021 by Parrnan

[JFP in PA]

The factory default for the valves is the loud position, so if they are not hooked up, that is what you get.  The valves only move to the "quiet" position when activated.  The original reason for the valves was the incredibly restrictive Swiss noise laws for residential neighborhoods, so when the vehicle was operating a low speeds, it was quiet.

[Bill many]

check out NHP valved exhaust. $1799.00. Have it on a Boxster S, and sounds really good without being stupid loud.

There is a distributor in Florida, but it was on my car when I bought it. Transforms the car!