NO TPMS for Winter Wheels

[smokeman909]

Hi, I am considering a new set of winter wheels. Is there any side effects on drivability if I don't put TPMS sensors ? Other than the screen warning ?

Will traction control or anything else be in  safe mode or something like that ?

[JFP in PA]

2 hours ago, smokeman909 said:

Hi, I am considering a new set of winter wheels. Is there any side effects on drivability if I don't put TPMS sensors ? Other than the screen warning ?

Will traction control or anything else be in  safe mode or something like that ?

The only things affected by not have TPMS sensors is your sanity from the warning messages, and the car will not pass inspection that way.  Nothing else is bothered by it.

[ak_siberian]

Would Durametric not allow you to disable the TPMS?

 

siberian

[JFP in PA]

1 minute ago, ak_siberian said:

Would Durametric not allow you to disable the TPMS?

 

siberian

 

Touchy subject.  The TPMS is a federally mandated safety system; altering it, or turning it off could result in the party that told you how to do it being held liable if you got into an accident afterwards.

[ak_siberian]

Interesting. I had for years not bothered with TPMS' in winter given the initial drop in pressure with very low (below -35) temps and disabled it via VCDS  (or VAG-COM) on my Touaregs and RS5. I've never read or heard anyone mention this in any Audi or VDub forum nor Uwe Ross at Ross Tech.

 

But back to my question, would PoCom or Durametric or other be able to disable it? I'm also trying to decide what monitoring system is best for my recently ordered 2019 Macan S.

 

siberian

Edited August 23, 2019 by ak_siberian

[JFP in PA]

11 minutes ago, ak_siberian said:

Interesting. I had for years not bothered with TPMS' in winter given the initial drop in pressure with very low (below -35) temps and disabled it via VCDS  (or VAG-COM) on my Touaregs and RS5. I've never read or heard anyone mention this in any Audi or VDub forum nor Uwe Ross at Ross Tech.

 

But back to my question, would PoCom or Durametric or other be able to disable it? I'm also trying to decide what monitoring system is best for my recently ordered 2019 Macan S.

 

siberian

 

See my response above.

[ak_siberian]

Will see if any of the other forums echo your fears

[JFP in PA]

10 minutes ago, ak_siberian said:

Will see if any of the other forums echo your fears

 

It is not a matter of personal concerns, it is on the advice of legal counsel.  What other website do or do not do does not concern me, but we cannot allow either this site, or me personally, to become the "deep pockets" in the legal equations resulting from actions beyond our control.

[Loren]

38 minutes ago, ak_siberian said:

Will see if any of the other forums echo your fears

 

Yeah, don't talk to people who are in this business and deal with similar situations daily (shop owners and former Porsche employees) - yeah, ask people who give uneducated opinions on other forums.

 

Actually, my advice is talk to an attorney and ask him if it could affect your defense if you are involved in an accident. 

 

 

[ajd1170]

I recently changed the wheels and tires on my 2006 C4S, from 19" summer tires (Michelin Pilot) /19" wheels  to 18" winter tires (Pirelli Sottozero Serie II)/18" wheels. the TPC shows "summer tires." There is no option to select winter tires, nor to enter any information regarding the new tires. The TPC is otherwise working correctly.

 

Is this just a part of the TPC "learning process"  that will self-correct, or should I be concerned that there is a TPC fault.

Edited October 30, 2019 by ajd1170

[SLAM]

If you are someone who never checks their tire pressure, you need the TPMS.

If you are someone who cannot tell when one of your tires pressure is low as you drive, you need the TPMS. 
If you don’t have your own tire pressure guage, you need the TPMS. If you have two, your TPMS exempt.
Otherwise, it is a nice to have.

 

the regulation requiring TPMS is for manufacturers, not for owners.  

[JFP in PA]

1 hour ago, SLAM said:

the regulation requiring TPMS is for manufacturers, not for owners.  

 

According to all the related industry literature I've read, and what my shop's legal consul has told me personally, it is a Federally mandated safety system, meaning that if you disable it, or show someone how to disable it, and the vehicle is subsequently involved in an accident, whomever did it (or showed someone how to do it) can be held both criminally and financially liable.  And in many states, the vehicle is considered "unsafe" and would not pass local inspection standards.  The same thing would apply to removing seat belts or disabling or removing the air bags.

 

Proceed at your own risk..............................................

[SLAM]

Your lawyer is referring to tire professionals in a shop. They should not tell people to disable it or help them do it.
if they do, then some slimeball lawyer from the insurance company might try to press a BS case against the shop if they think they can get money from the shop. 

in any case, I wouldn’t take any legal advice from Renntech postings.

[JFP in PA]

2 hours ago, SLAM said:

Your lawyer is referring to tire professionals in a shop. They should not tell people to disable it or help them do it.
if they do, then some slimeball lawyer from the insurance company might try to press a BS case against the shop if they think they can get money from the shop. 

in any case, I wouldn’t take any legal advice from Renntech postings.

 

I am a "professional" that has run his own shop for many years, and my lawyer was advising me as a business owner, based upon multiple legal actions brought against similar businesses, and it two cases, individuals who did it for former buddies that later sued them for damages, and won big $.

 

The potential consequences simply are not worth the risk.  And no one here is offering legal advice, only our experience.........

 

[ttocs]

. . . . also consider the potential for liability for the car owner IF in an accident there are deflated tires or tires which measure too low or high in inflation and there is no TPMS or the system has been deactivated, the car owner's insurance company can question the circumstances and maybe not pay. This can also be the case when using summer rated tires in temperatures stated to be too low by the tire manufacturer - and yes, on this one I checked.

 

Liability is a very powerful word.