Steps to remove trans oil pump from ZF5HP19FL Transmission

[TNT79Bronco]

I had a bearing/seal failure in my 2003 Boxster w/Tiptronic, and need to replace the torque converter and the oil pump.  I have removed the transmission from the car and taken off the pan, filter, torque converter, and the control valves.  I have also removed all the bolts from front of the oil pump housing.  In online videos, they show two plastic tubes that need to be removed, before the pump will pull out.  These were on ZF5HP19 transmissions for BMW and other cars.  However, the Tiptronic  for our cars, Boxsters, is a ZF5HP19FL.  A slightly different monster.

 

When I try to pull on the oil pump, to remove it, it doesn't budge. I don't want to go forcing it, without knowing the proper steps to remove it.

 

Does anyone know the proper steps to remove the oil pump?

 

 

[JFP in PA]

These pumps often take a "set" to the housing and need to be "coaxed" out.  Don't go animal on it, but work it from side to side until it loosens up.

[crwarren11]

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[TNT79Bronco]

2 hours ago, JFP in PA said:

These pumps often take a "set" to the housing and need to be "coaxed" out.  Don't go animal on it, but work it from side to side until it loosens up.

Thanks!  So, are you saying that all I need to do is remove the 9 bolts from the pump front, and it should be able to be "coaxed" out.  No hidden bolts or other things need to be removed first?

[TNT79Bronco]

2 hours ago, crwarren11 said:

When I rebuilt my tip, I had a friend help me who was very familiar with these, and I don't specifically recall that issue.  In case you don't have it already, I have attached the repair manual here.

I believe that is manual to the "non FL" transmission.  This is the manual I think you were referring to, which is for the 'FL" version, which is what I have.

 

 

 

thanks!!!

Edited May 11, 2018 by TNT79Bronco

[JFP in PA]

Guys, you are posting copyrighted intellectual property of others, something you specifically agreed not to do when you joined RennTech.......................

 

Please remove the links or we will...................

[crwarren11]

Woops. Sorry didn’t know.

[JFP in PA]

15 minutes ago, TNT79Bronco said:

Thanks!  So, are you saying that all I need to do is remove the 9 bolts from the pump front, and it should be able to be "coaxed" out.  No hidden bolts or other things need to be removed first?

 

Pretty much.

[JFP in PA]

Just now, crwarren11 said:

Woops. Sorry didn’t know.

 

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[crwarren11]

I guess I was under the impression that things available in the public domain were not an issue. But either way I have remediated. Apologies.

[TNT79Bronco]

Thanks!  Sorry....my link to the .pdf has been removed for the manual describing the rebuilding of the ZF5HP19FL, which should be able to be found by doing a quick internet search, using the phrase "ZF5HP19FL repair manual".  If anyone has trouble finding it, please let me know.  More than happy to help.

 

JFP in PA....Thanks for the help!  I will post any and all progress!

[JFP in PA]

10 minutes ago, crwarren11 said:

I guess I was under the impression that things available in the public domain were not an issue. But either way I have remediated. Apologies.

 

A lot of things in the public domain are not legitimate, particularly on the internet.   Posting such things puts RennTech at risk of being shut down, which is why we cannot permit it.

[crwarren11]

Understood. Wouldn’t want to cause any problems.

[JFP in PA]

29 minutes ago, crwarren11 said:

Understood. Wouldn’t want to cause any problems.

 

It doesn't take much.  Something as seemingly innocuous as reproducing a page from a car's owners manual is enough to get the lawyers knocking on your door. 

[TNT79Bronco]

Back to our regularly scheduled program on disassembling the transmission. 

 

Turns out you DO have to remove something else, other than the 9 bolts. You have to remove the 5 short rubber hoses that are seen in the first picture, and circled below. 

 

Once  you do that, you can then insert a short prybar at the end the section that attaches to the oil pump, and apply a light outward pressure. See the red line in the photo. The pump pushes right out. I saw a video online of a guy rebuilding a ZF5HP19 for a BMW 325. Good video for reference.  

 

As a note. When I was using the T27 to remove the 9 bolts, one of the heads stripped out on one of the bolts. I then just carefully drilled the head off. Once the pump was removed, I was easily able to remove the bolt that was still screwed into the transmission. You can see the bolt at the 10 o’clock position in the picture of the oil pump. 

 

Edited May 12, 2018 by TNT79Bronco