Move Steering Wheel warning and car won't start...

[ALEV8]

Well maybe new battery ain't it!

[ALEV8]

Access control module or steering column.....

[Loren]

Access control module or steering column.....

 

Sorry, but you are likely going to need a PIWIS or PIWIS 2 diagnostic scan to find your problem.

[ALEV8]

Dear Lawd Jesus!!!

 

This could be The End.

[ALEV8]

Battery won't charge past 65%, or 11.8v....

[ALEV8]

UPDATE:

Had battery charged professionally and its 100% in every category. So it's NOT the battery. My independent mechanic isn't reliable any more and the next go to guy has a 2 week backlog.

I can get free towing via USAA to the Porsche dealer. Diagnostic fee is 150, just a little bit more than towing to the only mechanic I know.

Sort of at a loss as to what to do and a little jaded as to the veracity of a dealer touching my car and telling me what I need to do as I'm not in the mood to buy a steering column for many thousands of dollars.

Fish or cut bait?

[wvicary]

You need to visit a dealer and have the steering column  replaced and programmed with all of the keys you have. 

[ALEV8]

Oh super great

[Pkscheldt]

Well you have a problem and now you're 99% sure what it is. 

 

When this happened to me all we had was "change the batteries." Played around like you have and got really frustrated... But was always appreciative of people taking the time to provide some guidance on this site. 3 years ago no one had experienced this issue on this board. So on top of the expense of the fix and all of the batteries and all the other DIY exercise I went through I also spent over $2K JUST for diagnosis.

 

You really don't have much of a choice. Your 2004CTT is nearly worthless as it sits. Fix it - keep it, fix it - sell it, or part it out - sell it.

Edited February 27, 2015 by Pkscheldt

[ALEV8]

Try to smile more. Part is 1650 from Sonnen. Question is all new keys too? Labor must be hellacious. My beef with this sled is no iPod controller. Full leather, fast as ****, still awesome, mint interior, etc. Nothing out there I want. Might as well fix it.

Edited February 27, 2015 by ALEV8

[ALEV8]

Also could a recycled column be coded to fit my car or replace it with a manual column that's a third of the cost? Hmmmmm. Methinks fix and keep. There's nothing I want out there I can buy. I have almost nothing on this loan left.

[ALEV8]

Also could a recycled column be coded to fit my car or replace it with a manual column that's a third of the cost? Hmmmmm. Methinks fix and keep. There's nothing I want out there I can buy. I have almost nothing on this loan left.

[ALEV8]

Porsche has spoken!

STEERING COLUMN GEAR IS STRIPPED OUT. COLUMN WILL REQUIRE REPLACEMENT. STEERING COLUMN ECU IS BUILT INTO THE COLUMN AND DATA FROM WITHIN THE UNIT WILL NEED TO BE READ AND REWROTE INTO THE NEW ECU. STEERING ANGLE SENSOR WILL NEED TO BE CALIBRATED AFTER WORK IS PERFORMED. REPLACEMENT IS THE COLUMN IS GOING TO REQUIRE REMOVAL OF THE LEFT SIDE CATALYST.

[wvicary]

A used unit will not work and you only need to have the existing keys on hand as they sometimes need to be reintroduced to the vehicle when the new column is programmed. To calibrate the steering angle sensor you only need drive the vehicle in a straight line a few meters. The catalyst doesn't need to be removed to replace the column as you don't even need to touch the exhaust system at all.

[ALEV8]

So what would the smartest move be for a guy with nothing but time on his hands?

[ARModen]

Replace the battery first. It's cheap and insufficient bus voltage does crazy things to computerized circuits.

[ALEV8]

Thanks for the response but you need to read the rest of the thread first

[ARModen]

Yah I see that. I'm on my phone and I missed a page apparently.

[ALEV8]

Porsche has the car and it's 100% the steering column lock stuck in the middle position. Apparently SUV won't start unless unlocked. After yanking the wheel as hard as possible I broke the gears in the column as well. So in addition it's stripped. Porsche states new column computer must have data transferred to new column computer and steering angle calibrated. Key to their huge labor bill is removing the left cat...an alignment for 4x normal price on the street and something else. Parts wasn't all that much more than Sonnen but labor is $1400. Porsche also offers a manual column which is 400$. I asked if that's an option plus a new master key.

[ALEV8]

Just spoke to service and I'm skipping the manual as there's enough fiddling wih the old column to still spend a chunk of time and money on it with less benefit.

I don't want another car and I'm close to paid off.

Next are new valve stem seals on the x5....

Next car is a project 911 after my 76 Landcruiser is done.

Edited March 5, 2015 by ALEV8

[wvicary]

Let the OPC install the unit, if anything goes south the liability is on them but I would inquire why they want to remove the catalytic convertor. Is there a indy near you that has experience with the Cayenne and the factory scan tool?

[ALEV8]

Yes but the cost savings are minimal maybe 40/hr....not enough to care for me. It sucks but it'll be fixed right and warrantied.

[KG955]

Thanks for this post. I received the Move Steering Wheel warning with a clicking sound in the column.

 

I removed the battery and had it tested at a station - it was very good. 

 

I then took a print of this message thread when I towed the car to my Porsche indy. They had it for a number of days. The hold up apparently was reprogramming with the key. Cost was about $1800 all-in for the column and labor. They only charged me 6.5 hours. Unfortunately they scratched the hell out of the surrounding dash on the remove and replace of the column, the wheel is off center and the airbag, horn and center buttons were not reconnected. Very surprised at the sloppy job and that they let me drive it away. 

[ALEV8]

Update:

3200$ later I have one orgasmically nice new steering column and three tire patches. It moves zip ,zip perfectly like a brand new one should.... I got my car back. And, they loved seeing an 04 in beautiful shape at the dealer!

Edited March 11, 2015 by ALEV8

[Pkscheldt]

Glad you're back on the road!