PSE without wiring

[CO996C4]

I just bought an 02 Carrera 4S with stock mufflers and was looking at the PSE for it. I was told by dealer rep that I can have them installed without wiring the bypass relay and they would just always be with sound "on". (which is what I want) Told it was $700 cheaper install also. Is this true? I take I would want the newer version of PSE with 3.6? Thanks for any advice

[mffarrell]

You don't need to have the electronics installed to have PSE. The electronics control the sound through a vacuum bypass valve and a momentary switch to activate/deactivate the PSE sound.

Without the electronic control, the PSE will be in bypass (on) all the time.

I installed the full PSE with electronics myself. My dealer quoted me $1100 for labor for a full installation, and $200 for just the mufflers.

[CO996C4]

That sounds good. I really don't mind having the sound all the time. Now for the next question do they sell the PSE without the electronic pieces?

Appreciate your help :)

[LVDell]

The electronics come with it when you purchase new. You just don't need to install it. Heck you can even sell your electronics for a couple bucks on eBay to somebody who wants to do the hookup and bought theirs used--that's what I did.

FYI....my dealer wanted $800 for the full install and $100 for the cans alone. I decided to let the dealer do the cans for $100 and have my Saturday to myself. If they wanted $200 then I would have done it myself. Essentially 3 bolts on each side.

[CO996C4]

In comparing the pse with aftermarket like fabspeed, ghl, b&b: do these really make more hp as they all claim? I would like a little more hp but I don't want it too loud. Had fabspeed on previous car and they were a touch too loud Thanks for your help.

Jim

[Orient Express]

I just finished installing a PSE with the wiring. It is very easy, and the wiring and vacuum setup is not difficult at all. I would recommend installing it.

Here is my writeup on the install

[CO996C4]

Alas I am not that good with mechanical things. I can change oil and tires..about it. Still curious if the aftermarkets make more hp than the pse. I heard GHL is good and regular model not so loud.

Thanks

[charlesl]

Hi Gang,

I'm new to the whole PSE thing and from what I've read, I would be plenty happy with PSE and no wiring. Seems that almost everyone leaves it in bypass all the time anyway.

If I were to go this route, do I need to do anything to the exhaust to "hold" it in bypass mode permanently?

Thanks in advance!

-Charles

[Loren]

Hi Gang,

I'm new to the whole PSE thing and from what I've read, I would be plenty happy with PSE and no wiring. Seems that almost everyone leaves it in bypass all the time anyway.

If I were to go this route, do I need to do anything to the exhaust to "hold" it in bypass mode permanently?

Thanks in advance!

-Charles

No, it defaults to valves open all the time.

[Kim]

In comparing the pse with aftermarket like fabspeed, ghl, b&b: do these really make more hp as they all claim? I would like a little more hp but I don't want it too loud. Had fabspeed on previous car and they were a touch too loud Thanks for your help.

I've got the PSE. One of my primary factors in selection was the ability to go "quiet" when I so desired.

I don't believe ANY of the louder exhausts add measurable HP by themselves. Maybe a few HP if coupled with new intake, etc.

Kim

2000 Cab