Annoying Mustang Friend - Please Help

[tben]

I have a buddy who is a mustang freak and owns a 2013 Mustang GT without any aftermarket upgrades. He has the "track pack" which he believes puts his "stang" right there with exotic sports cars. He thinks because his V8 has about the same HP as my 996 TT that it would beat it. I tried to tell him that it won't be close unless he gets a GT500 or adds some serious muscle to get it over 600hp and then hope he can keep the wheels from just spinning.

I came here to see if any of you know more specs between the too. I have been trying to find the weight of the 2004 996 hard top cabriolet with TT because I know it has an aluminum frame and the engine is much lighter than the Ford V8 but can't seem to find the specs. The 2013 Ford Mustang GT weighs around 3800lbs I believe.

What other specs would make a big difference between the two? I have AWD so the car sticks, my wheels are 18's and he has 19's which I would think might make mine quicker. I had an 09 BMW M3 before the 996 and it would beat his mustang and the 996 is much faster than the M3, especially once you are already cruising. I'm not impressed with the 996's start out of first but after that it's a rocket (manual).

The worst are the Mustang owners who think they have a high end sports car because they can smoke the wheels and it's loud. I won't even race them when they try on the highway or whatever, it's not worth risking a life or a ticket for racing a big piece of plastic.

Thanks in advance for any comparable specs.

[wvicary]

I hope you aren't serious.

[Ahsai]

In case you are serious, just dual it out on a real race track :) Should be pretty obvious with equal drivers.

[OscarAH1W]

I wouldn't give him the time of day.  3 words for your friend:  LIVE REAR AXLE.  No sports cars with that archaic setup.  You drive a car that, at 10 years + old is still worth more than his Mustang.  Best part of owning a Porsche is ignoring people that always want to prove themselves up to the task.  You are the benchmark so don't even let them think you notice them.  Drives 'em NUTS.  If he still wants to look at numbers, give him this:  16 24 Hours of LeMans victories, 28,000+ motorsports victories... 'nuff said...

[Jager]

It would look like this if he had the bigger GT500:

 

 

I have driven both the Turbos and the Mustangs, there is no comparison. You should let your friend drive the Turbo, that will change his mind.

[1dmurrray]

According to published data,  a GT can beat a regular 996 but can't touch the 996 TT. The latest GT500 can take a 996 TT in a straight line. 997TT depends on the driver. 991 Turbo S wins hands down. Any Porsche easily out handles any Mustang.

 

2013 GT500 0-60 3.5 QM 11.6

2011 GT500 0-60 4.1 QM 12.4

 

2013 GT 0-60 QM 4.3 QM 12.7

 

2014 Porsche 911 Turbo S    0-60 mph 2.6    Quarter Mile 10.9

2006 Porsche 911 Turbo   0-60 mph 3.5   Quarter mile 11.8

2001 Porsche 911 Turbo   0-60 mph 3.8   Quarter mile 12.1

2001 Porsche 911 Carrera    0-60 mph 4.5    Quarter Mile 12.9

Edited July 4, 2014 by 1dmurrray

[Sanderhank]

I hate mustangs and all their fan boys. In southern Ohio and west Virginia, these guys think they have a Ferrari or Lamborghini. I had a 2001 tt and none of them would race me, lol. To be fair about the video above, the mustang driver got a real bad start. That said, still wouldn't have been that close. Hope you actually race your mustang fan boy buddy and blow his doors off. Make sure you power brake it if it's tiptronic. Let us know.

[White987S]

Upgrade the nut behind the wheel.

There is always a faster car.