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IMS Lawsuit is in motion..

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Just one more piece of info...

Am I Part of the Settlement?5

The settlement only impacts Class Members.

The Class is comprised of: All persons in the United States who currently own or lease or previously owned or leased a Class Vehicle.

A “Class Vehicle” is any:

  • Model year 2001 – 2005 Porsche Boxster vehicles manufactured with an IMS between May 4, 2001 and February 21, 2005 with VINs in the following ranges:
    • WP0CA29851S620508 – WP0CA29831S620619
    • WP0CB29811S660405 – WP0CB29801S660492
    • WP0CA29821U625959 – WP0CA29891U627644
    • WP0CB29861U664289 – WP0CB29841U665473
    • WP0CA29892S620061 – WP0CA29802S620238
    • WP0CA29832U620061 – WP0CA29892U626107
    • WP0CB29802U660062 – WP0CB29892U664319
    • WP0CB29862S660062 – WP0CB29852S660344
    • WP0ZZZ98Z2U602762
    • WP0ZZZ98Z2U640813
    • WP0CA298X3S620068 – WP0CA29853S620222
    • WP0CA29813U620061 – WP0CA298X3U625002
    • WP0CB29803U660063 – WP0CB29803U663240
    • WP0CB29853S660068 – WP0CB298X3S660227
    • WP0ZZZ98Z3U604185
    • WP0ZZZ98Z3U640971
    • WP0CA29854S620061 – WP0CA29824S621085
    • WP0CA298X4U620061 – WP0CA29854U621568
    • WP0CB29804S660061 – WP0CB29834S660555
    • WP0CB29854U660061 – WP0CB29834U661824
    • WP0CA298X5U710067 – WP0CA29815U711852
    • WP0CB29885U730069 – WP0CB29835U731310

    [*]Model year 2001 – 2005 Porsche 911 vehicles manufactured with an IMS between May 4, 2001 and February 20, 2005, excluding the Turbo, GT2, and GT3 models, with VINs in the following ranges:

    • WP0AA29991S622763-WP0AA29901S623641
    • WP0CA299X1S654064-WP0CA29971S655284
    • WP0ZZZ99Z1S644465
    • WP0ZZZ99Z2S603927
    • WP0AA299X2S620005-WP0AA29922S624193
    • WP0BA29922S635067-WP0BA299X2S635740
    • WP0CA29932S650004-WP0CA29952S655611
    • WP0AA29903S620063-WP0AA29993S624175
    • WP0BA29913S635062-WP0BA29983S635639
    • WP0CA29943S650062-WP0CA29913S653887
    • WP0ZZZ99Z3S641690-WP0ZZZ99Z3S644167
    • WP0ZZZ99Z4S604191
    • WP0AA29974S620062-WP0AA29934S623041
    • WP0BA29984S635061-WP0BA29974S635231
    • WP0CA29904S650061-WP0CA29924S653818
    • WP0AA29935S620061-WP0AA29925S620245
    • WP0BA29965S635061-WP0BA29995S635085
    • WP0CA29995S650061-WP0CA29995S650254
    • WP0AA29905S715077-WP0AA29905S717475
    • WP0AB299X5S740081-WP0AB29955S742109
    • WP0CA29935S755064-WP0CA29935S755209
    • WP0CB29915S765072-WP0CB29925S765212
    • WP0ZZZ99Z5S731099
    • WP0ZZZ99Z5S701444

To determine if your vehicle falls within this range, please find the tenth digit, which should be a 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 and then determine if your VIN number is in the range of the last six digits. If your Class Vehicle’s VIN meets these tests, then you are a member of the Class.

- See more at: http://www.imsporschesettlement.com/faqs/#qq5

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JFP in PA Member

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Why are the 1999 & 2000 models not considered part of the group that is susceptible?

Because they still carried the dual row bearing, which was the least failure prone style.

xxaarraa Member

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Great to see this getting resolved in favor of the consumer. It's a crying shame for people to buy a $100K car and have to deal with IMS or similar critical failures.

Jvc300 Member

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Great to see this getting resolved in favor of the consumer. It's a crying shame for people to buy a $100K car and have to deal with IMS or similar critical failures.

Million dollar airplanes break too. I've seen cars of all makes and models have engines blow up. All parts are eligible to fail. I've watched a friends Harley fail right before my eyes. Piston rod failed on the rear cylinder. 2011 MB E class engine blew. Why would anyone think the Porsche would be bullet proof. I love my 2004 and it's sold as a rock. I'm sorry for those that have suffered the failure, but I don't lose sleep at night over it.

I would just buy a new engine from Jake Raby. People replace engines in Airplanes, Truck and cars everyday. Why not the Porsche?

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Great to see this getting resolved in favor of the consumer. It's a crying shame for people to buy a $100K car and have to deal with IMS or similar critical failures.

Million dollar airplanes break too. I've seen cars of all makes and models have engines blow up. All parts are eligible to fail. I've watched a friends Harley fail right before my eyes. Piston rod failed on the rear cylinder. 2011 MB E class engine blew. Why would anyone think the Porsche would be bullet proof. I love my 2004 and it's sold as a rock. I'm sorry for those that have suffered the failure, but I don't lose sleep at night over it.

I would just buy a new engine from Jake Raby. People replace engines in Airplanes, Truck and cars everyday. Why not the Porsche?

A. Pointless to compare airplanes to cars. Different technologies, supply chain, engineering standards and complexity.

B. Pointless to compare Porsches to Harleys. Not even going to touch that one.

C. Pointless to compare isolated examples of your friends' vehicle problems (you seem to have a lot of friends with vehicle problems) to a class action lawsuit which by definition means a large incidence rate.

Here is the bottom line: wear and tear and variability in quality is inherent in everything we buy. When variability in quality and catastrophic failure percentage goes over a statistically significant threshold, that is not acceptable. Most definitely not acceptable in a boutique product that people pay a premium for.

I am glad you love your Porsche. We all do.

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My '04 C2's last six digits are 260135 and isn't in the above reference chart. Just wonderIng how I escaped the issue? Did different vendor make my IMS? Curious very curious. Any thoughts?

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Loren, as the acknowledged expert on all thing Pcar, can you shed light on why my VIN isn't on the infamous list? Thank you in advance.

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Loren, as the acknowledged expert on all thing Pcar, can you shed light on why my VIN isn't on the infamous list? Thank you in advance.

Sorry, I do not know how these attorneys came up with this list. Perhaps the question should be addressed to them on their website?

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This a.m, I received the claim forms since I have a 2005 C4S. No Ims or other problems so far @ 45k miles. At a glance, the claimant(s) are required to provide

detailed info on the IMS repairs and proof(s) of everything.

JasonStern Member

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Great to see this getting resolved in favor of the consumer. It's a crying shame for people to buy a $100K car and have to deal with IMS or similar critical failures.

Million dollar airplanes break too. I've seen cars of all makes and models have engines blow up. All parts are eligible to fail. I've watched a friends Harley fail right before my eyes. Piston rod failed on the rear cylinder. 2011 MB E class engine blew. Why would anyone think the Porsche would be bullet proof. I love my 2004 and it's sold as a rock. I'm sorry for those that have suffered the failure, but I don't lose sleep at night over it.

QFT. Although if Porsche knew about the design problems, which they likely did given multiple revisions, then it speaks a lot about the company regarding their willingness or unwillingness to provide good faith repairs to their loyal customers when it comes to fundamental design flaws.

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If you go a little further, if you bought a non-cpo'd used car then you only get a 25% reimbursement otherwise they give 100%. As long as it is within the 130K mile / 10 year parameters. This lawsuit won't help me anyways for the 25% of 25-40K engine replacement.

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This is going to seem like a silly question and probably is... but the settlement and 25% refund applies only to the actual person who paid for the repairs and not the current owner correct? i.e., my previous owner did the whole IMS retrofit and other things and I have receipts and all the paperwork, but car was not in my ownership at the time. This doesn't help me does it?

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Okay, I spoke to the Pcar dealership this morning about the cost of an IMS replacement.

The Pcar specialist asked me if I had a triptronic, and I said yes, he proceeded to tell me that my car would *not* be covered by the lawsuit because I have a different IMS than the cars with a manual tranny...... :huh: !! He said that TripTronic equipped cars did not experience the failure for 2004.... :huh: .

I asked him directly, "So, the cars with an Automatic trans were built with a different IMS?" Porsche Specialist "Yes, thats correct.". WTF? Seriously?

He also told me to call the lawsuit and they will tell me the same.

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Okay, I spoke to the Pcar dealership this morning about the cost of an IMS replacement.

The Pcar specialist asked me if I had a triptronic, and I said yes, he proceeded to tell me that my car would *not* be covered by the lawsuit because I have a different IMS than the cars with a manual tranny...... :huh: !! He said that TripTronic equipped cars did not experience the failure for 2004.... :huh: .

I asked him directly, "So, the cars with an Automatic trans were built with a different IMS?" Porsche Specialist "Yes, thats correct.". WTF? Seriously?

He also told me to call the lawsuit and they will tell me the same.

You should call the Pcar specialist back and ask him if he could give you the part number for that IMS assembly so that you can compare it to the non-TipTronic IMS assembly. I say "assembly" because Porsche only supplies the IMS bearing as part of the complete intermediate shaft.

Tell him you want to educate the lawyers who extracted a settlement from Porsche.

I'd like to hear back about the response he gives you because I'm reasonably certain it will be entertaining. :jump:

Regards, Maurice.

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Okay, I spoke to the Pcar dealership this morning about the cost of an IMS replacement.

The Pcar specialist asked me if I had a triptronic, and I said yes, he proceeded to tell me that my car would *not* be covered by the lawsuit because I have a different IMS than the cars with a manual tranny...... :huh: !! He said that TripTronic equipped cars did not experience the failure for 2004.... :huh: .

I asked him directly, "So, the cars with an Automatic trans were built with a different IMS?" Porsche Specialist "Yes, thats correct.". WTF? Seriously?

He also told me to call the lawsuit and they will tell me the same.

Sorry, but that is complete nonsense, Tips had IMS failures just like the manual gear box cars, just in smaller numbers because there are fewer Tip cars. Go to the lawsuit's site, they have a place where you enter your complete VIN and it will tell you if your car is involved in the suit class or not.

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Okay, I spoke to the Pcar dealership this morning about the cost of an IMS replacement.

The Pcar specialist asked me if I had a triptronic, and I said yes, he proceeded to tell me that my car would *not* be covered by the lawsuit because I have a different IMS than the cars with a manual tranny...... :huh: !! He said that TripTronic equipped cars did not experience the failure for 2004.... :huh: .

I asked him directly, "So, the cars with an Automatic trans were built with a different IMS?" Porsche Specialist "Yes, thats correct.". WTF? Seriously?

He also told me to call the lawsuit and they will tell me the same.

You should call the Pcar specialist back and ask him if he could give you the part number for that IMS assembly so that you can compare it to the non-TipTronic IMS assembly. I say "assembly" because Porsche only supplies the IMS bearing as part of the complete intermediate shaft.

Tell him you want to educate the lawyers who extracted a settlement from Porsche.

I'd like to hear back about the response he gives you because I'm reasonably certain it will be entertaining. :jump:

Regards, Maurice.

That's a good idea! I did call the lawsuit and I still have not heard form them.

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Okay, I spoke to the Pcar dealership this morning about the cost of an IMS replacement.

The Pcar specialist asked me if I had a triptronic, and I said yes, he proceeded to tell me that my car would *not* be covered by the lawsuit because I have a different IMS than the cars with a manual tranny...... :huh: !! He said that TripTronic equipped cars did not experience the failure for 2004.... :huh: .

I asked him directly, "So, the cars with an Automatic trans were built with a different IMS?" Porsche Specialist "Yes, thats correct.". WTF? Seriously?

He also told me to call the lawsuit and they will tell me the same.

Sorry, but that is complete nonsense, Tips had IMS failures just like the manual gear box cars, just in smaller numbers because there are fewer Tip cars. Go to the lawsuit's site, they have a place where you enter your complete VIN and it will tell you if your car is involved in the suit class or not.

I know it is! It's unreal that they would turn away the biz. They are installing the LN bearing on the manuals and turning away the Tips? ..

BTW: My VIN falls within the law suit. I'm planning on having Flat 6 install the IMS solution. My car has 19,500 miles and is beautiful. It will be worth it.

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Okay, I spoke to the Pcar dealership this morning about the cost of an IMS replacement.

The Pcar specialist asked me if I had a triptronic, and I said yes, he proceeded to tell me that my car would *not* be covered by the lawsuit because I have a different IMS than the cars with a manual tranny...... :huh: !! He said that TripTronic equipped cars did not experience the failure for 2004.... :huh: .

I asked him directly, "So, the cars with an Automatic trans were built with a different IMS?" Porsche Specialist "Yes, thats correct.". WTF? Seriously?

He also told me to call the lawsuit and they will tell me the same.

Sorry, but that is complete nonsense, Tips had IMS failures just like the manual gear box cars, just in smaller numbers because there are fewer Tip cars. Go to the lawsuit's site, they have a place where you enter your complete VIN and it will tell you if your car is involved in the suit class or not.

I know it is! It's unreal that they would turn away the biz. They are installing the LN bearing on the manuals and turning away the Tips? ..

BTW: My VIN falls within the law suit. I'm planning on having Flat 6 install the IMS solution. My car has 19,500 miles and is beautiful. It will be worth it.

Perhaps because the Tip cars are harder to do (take more time)..............

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Okay, I spoke to the Pcar dealership this morning about the cost of an IMS replacement.

The Pcar specialist asked me if I had a triptronic, and I said yes, he proceeded to tell me that my car would *not* be covered by the lawsuit because I have a different IMS than the cars with a manual tranny...... :huh: !! He said that TripTronic equipped cars did not experience the failure for 2004.... :huh: .

I asked him directly, "So, the cars with an Automatic trans were built with a different IMS?" Porsche Specialist "Yes, thats correct.". WTF? Seriously?

He also told me to call the lawsuit and they will tell me the same.

Sorry, but that is complete nonsense, Tips had IMS failures just like the manual gear box cars, just in smaller numbers because there are fewer Tip cars. Go to the lawsuit's site, they have a place where you enter your complete VIN and it will tell you if your car is involved in the suit class or not.

I know it is! It's unreal that they would turn away the biz. They are installing the LN bearing on the manuals and turning away the Tips? ..

BTW: My VIN falls within the law suit. I'm planning on having Flat 6 install the IMS solution. My car has 19,500 miles and is beautiful. It will be worth it.

Perhaps because the Tip cars are harder to do (take more time)..............

Then give me a higher price to do a TIP.

I'm sending it to Jake Raby for the "IMS Solution". I'm not loosing sleep over the IMS, but I'm surprised at the pCar dealers lies and mis-guidance. There are more things that I have been told by the dealers that I'm not listing here, but I'm disgusted by the service reps attitudes.

Fun Fact: The 80's and 90's BMW 2.5 6cyl engines (the 325, 525, etc) had a belt for the timing that had to be replaced every 60K miles. If you didn't, you risked losing your engine. I see the IMS as the same thing. Just replace the bearing on a schedule and enjoy.

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Let's see if we actually get our money back before lighting a stoagie or pushing the fat lady out on stage. Would be a lovely way to end years of frustration.

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Read Sept 2013 Autoweek rather uncomplimentary article, 'Yeah, there is a substitute,' on this issue whereby Porsche will pay with conditions for cars sold Jan 2001 through Dec 2005. It states there's a suspense of Oct 15, 2013 for claim's submission.

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I asked this on another IMS lawsuit thread, but got no responses. If we bought a 996 that had $5-6k in IMS-related repairs done by the previous owner, are we (current owner) entitled to anything? Or is this only if you spent the money and still own the car?

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