TPMS Faults

[EleCTriCT]

Hi Everyone.

Looking for TPMS diagnostic info.....

TPMS inactive..

Fault codes via piwis and durametric

8003

System disturbance

Implausible signal

8009

Wheel electronics front right

Upper limit value exceeded

Is 8009 referring to the wheel sensor or the antenna?

Cheers and thanks...

[Loren]

8009

Possible cause of fault

- Data receipt function is faulty, no signals from wheel electronics

- Temperature on wheel sensor is higher than 120° C

- Front left wheel electronics faulty

Battery and antenna are likely sources...

Read out the sensor data under Actual values and if they are negative the sensor is bad.

[EleCTriCT]

Used a Bartech sensor scanner to verify an inactive r/f sensor.

Replaced Sensor.

Had to re-program TPM module with piwis and selected the learning function via instrument cluster, then test drive.

Problem Solved.

[paulv]

Why does the TPMS controller need to be re-programmed when a wheel sensor is replaced? I'm also having errors with my TPMS with a fault showing for the RR wheel. I'm going to swap the rear tires and then the rear antennas to see if I can isolate the problem. My Durametric shows that I have 23 months remaining in the other wheels with zero months on the RR wheel.

Regards,

paul...

Edited October 22, 2012 by paulv

[RFM]

My experience is that the sensors work well up to half the specified sensor battery life, then the problems begin.

[JFP in PA]

Why does the TPMS controller need to be re-programmed when a wheel sensor is replaced? I'm also having errors with my TPMS with a fault showing for the RR wheel. I'm going to swap the rear tires and then the rear antennas to see if I can isolate the problem. My Durametric shows that I have 23 months remaining in the other wheels with zero months on the RR wheel.

Regards,

paul...

Most TPMS require that the controller be "reset" when a sensor has been replaced, or even moved (as when tires are rotated front to rear on more plebian vehicles). These systems are a major pain in the butt as well as a real expense to the owner.

I would be willing to bet that your right rear had a premature battery failure; we see this fairly regularly.

[paulv]

RFM/JFP,

Thx for your insight -- Instead of swapping wheels, I got lazy and stopped by the shop where I usually have my tires installed and the tech used the hand-held to determine that the RR wasn't transmitting (while the others were). So, like you guys said, premature battery failure. I'll wait until I buy another set of tires (about 1.5 yrs) and change out all four sensors.

Regards,

paul...

[EleCTriCT]

I have found that the r/r always appears to be dead/non functioning when there is a fault in the system.

I've been doing the re-programming as a fail safe because I've been having major issues with (some) vehicles re-learning.

I feel the system/modual is stupid for a lack of words..

Paulv - I spent a short life time already swapping both wheels and antennas with no luck ever. you end up chasing sensor id's to no avail!!!

As much sense as it makes to swap left to right front to back etc it doesn't seem to work.

So far my best solution was using an external tool to verify sensor operation. 9 out of 10 has been a sensor.

Good choice changing all 4... Sometimes its a hard sell because of the related costs...

- BTW -

I have found a tool I will be buying made by ITM auto parts.(when available by my local supplier)

Sensor reader and programmer. they also sell "blank" sensors that you can program to match the vehicle you are working on.

I recently had a bartech rep give me a demo but the lack of sensors for vw/audi/porsche and the cost has led me to the ITM product