RMS TSB Title?

[Rob in WA]

Well my car is leaking again. :( The RMS has already been replaced twice. My service manager acts like he has no idea this is a well known problem and doesn't know what the tool is to measure if the engine is out of spec or not. I'm demanding to know how much out of spec it is. It's my understanding the more then 3 mm = new engine. I want to come armed with as much information as possible. I found the "Crankshaft Flywheel Side" TSB, but I can't print it. It also seems there maybe other TSB on this. I'd like to get as much info as possible and print it out to show my service manager. Thanks

[Loren]

Sounds like you need a new dealer....

I sent you a PM.

[Scouser]

OK, first off 3mm is huge. Its more like 3 thou of an inch. I am not sure of the exact measurements but I have seen them use feeler guages to check it. If you have 3mm clearance you got big problems.

There are several TSB's to look at. The one your talking about I think is called:

Crankshaft Seal - Flywheel Side (R & R Procedures)

But there is another you should get:

Engine Oil Leak By Crankshaft Seal (Flywheel Side) (superceded)

Make certain they replace the engine block bolts and IMS flange bolts with the new blue ones. Make certain they handle the seal correctly and install it dry (not pre-oiled) using the mandril tool.

Finally, you should be displaying the "RMS Failed" image as seen in my sig below. Get it here: http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/rmsclubfailed2.jpg

I've just had my 7th fitted!

[Rob in WA]

Thanks again Loren and thanks as well Bernie. I'm thinking of taking it up to Vancouver, but I'm not sure if the warranty will transfer to another country. I haven't heard good things about Barrier down in Seattle.

I'm looking to get a picture like this:

This is from Eric the Plug Guy's new cab.

[R1STCARRERA]

Loren,

Can you send me the same thing? My car was just been diagnosed with its 2nd RMS leak. Its a 2002 with only 9200 miles. My service Manager thinks this is "extremly unusual" Apprently he does not read this board.

Jay

[R1STCARRERA]

Loren

Is it realistic to ask the dealer to replace my clutch (for free) while they are repairing the RMS. Again, car has 9200 miles. I feel its the least they can do since it is the 2nd time

J

[Loren]

IMHO... if there is oil on it - yes.

[PTEC]

Loren

Is it realistic to ask the dealer to replace my clutch (for free) while they are repairing the RMS.  Again, car has 9200 miles.  I feel its the least they can do since it is the 2nd time

J

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No, thats not realistic at all. Theres no reason you would need to change the clutch disc unless you lost like 9qaurts of oil through your rear main.

Also to the guy who wants measurements, they don't go buy that anymore. There is a special tool they use which fits over the end of the crankshaft and slides between the crank and the case halfs. If the tools slides back and forth with ease, then they wont warranty the engine.

Edited March 5, 2005 by PTEC