New Carrara 4S

[Dntlvet]

I had a very nice test drive yesterday of a 2011 Cerrara and a 2010 4S.

The 4S was very much enjoyable. Quick cornering made this car stand out.

I prefer Mannual but both were PDK.

I liked the PDK and the paddle shifter option.

The sports exhaust was ok.

I'm not sure I understand the sport chrono option (benefits).

Tomorrow I will drive an 08 911 Turbo that is NOT a CPO with under 10K miles.

What do I need to know about this car?

The 08 Turbo is priced the same as the 2010 C4S (<1,000 miles).

2010 has warranty turbo does not.

How do I verify the 08 was not over rev'ed?

Thank's

[askbjoernhansen]

I'm not sure I understand the sport chrono option (benefits).

Tomorrow I will drive an 08 911 Turbo that is NOT a CPO with under 10K miles.

What do I need to know about this car?

The 08 Turbo is priced the same as the 2010 C4S (<1,000 miles).

2010 has warranty turbo does not.

How do I verify the 08 was not over rev'ed?

If I remember right then the tool they use to see what the car computer says can tell if/how often/when it was last redlined.

The turbo's didn't get PDK until 2010.

The sport chrono also gives you the "sport" and "sport plus" modes which, I think, are quite nice. The little timer in the dash is a waste of space, but they come together.

- ask

[CaptnCrash]

I had a very nice test drive yesterday of a 2011 Cerrara and a 2010 4S.

The 4S was very much enjoyable. Quick cornering made this car stand out.

I prefer Mannual but both were PDK.

I liked the PDK and the paddle shifter option.

The sports exhaust was ok.

I'm not sure I understand the sport chrono option (benefits).

Tomorrow I will drive an 08 911 Turbo that is NOT a CPO with under 10K miles.

What do I need to know about this car?

The 08 Turbo is priced the same as the 2010 C4S (<1,000 miles).

2010 has warranty turbo does not.

How do I verify the 08 was not over rev'ed?

Thank's

The sport chrono doesn't do a lot on the C2 or C4s other than some suspension tweaks .. You will see a bigger difference with that option on the turbo as it adds some additional torque mid-range.

My wife's DD is a 2011 911TT ... We test drove a 2011 C4s and the only difference was about 115hp and some pretty substantial torque, Other than that the cars were pretty much identical. All of these were 6MT .. We don't do slush-boxes.

I am a firm believer that you don't own a modern P car without a warranty even if you're a DIY'er ... YMMV.

--CC

[Dntlvet]

I had a very nice test drive yesterday of a 2011 Cerrara and a 2010 4S.

The 4S was very much enjoyable. Quick cornering made this car stand out.

I prefer Mannual but both were PDK.

I liked the PDK and the paddle shifter option.

The sports exhaust was ok.

I'm not sure I understand the sport chrono option (benefits).

Tomorrow I will drive an 08 911 Turbo that is NOT a CPO with under 10K miles.

What do I need to know about this car?

The 08 Turbo is priced the same as the 2010 C4S (<1,000 miles).

2010 has warranty turbo does not.

How do I verify the 08 was not over rev'ed?

Any thoughts on a Zurich Warrantee on the 08 911 Turbo?

Thank's

The sport chrono doesn't do a lot on the C2 or C4s other than some suspension tweaks .. You will see a bigger difference with that option on the turbo as it adds some additional torque mid-range.

My wife's DD is a 2011 911TT ... We test drove a 2011 C4s and the only difference was about 115hp and some pretty substantial torque, Other than that the cars were pretty much identical. All of these were 6MT .. We don't do slush-boxes.

I am a firm believer that you don't own a modern P car without a warranty even if you're a DIY'er ... YMMV.

--CC

If PDK was not available, I guess it was a tiptronic.

Is that not a good system?

[CaptnCrash]

I had a very nice test drive yesterday of a 2011 Cerrara and a 2010 4S.

The 4S was very much enjoyable. Quick cornering made this car stand out.

I prefer Mannual but both were PDK.

I liked the PDK and the paddle shifter option.

The sports exhaust was ok.

I'm not sure I understand the sport chrono option (benefits).

Tomorrow I will drive an 08 911 Turbo that is NOT a CPO with under 10K miles.

What do I need to know about this car?

The 08 Turbo is priced the same as the 2010 C4S (<1,000 miles).

2010 has warranty turbo does not.

How do I verify the 08 was not over rev'ed?

Any thoughts on a Zurich Warrantee on the 08 911 Turbo?

Thank's

The sport chrono doesn't do a lot on the C2 or C4s other than some suspension tweaks .. You will see a bigger difference with that option on the turbo as it adds some additional torque mid-range.

My wife's DD is a 2011 911TT ... We test drove a 2011 C4s and the only difference was about 115hp and some pretty substantial torque, Other than that the cars were pretty much identical. All of these were 6MT .. We don't do slush-boxes.

I am a firm believer that you don't own a modern P car without a warranty even if you're a DIY'er ... YMMV.

--CC

If PDK was not available, I guess it was a tiptronic.

Is that not a good system?

PDK was available in a 2011TT but we wanted no part of that, and to date there have been a number of problems reported. Staying with the tried and true 6MT has always proven to get the most out of the car and be by far the most reliable, not to mention it saves a ton of $$$ when talking about a P car. Staying with the iron brakes and 5 lug wheels is also good.

--CC

Edited June 18, 2011 by CaptnCrash

[phillipj]

"Staying with the iron brakes and 5 lug wheels is also good."

What? You like the steel brakes better than the ceramics? You're kidding right? This is my fifth Porsche and first with PCCB's. I will never go back to steel brakes for the street.

Have you even driven a P car with PCCB's? If so you didn't like them?:rolleyes:

Please explain....:unsure:

[gota911]

Dntlver,

Sport Chrono is a MUST is you get a car With PDK, as itgives you 3 different shift mapping patterns when in auto shift mode.

1) Normal: the car will shift as early as possible for maximum comfort and gasmileage

2) Sport: the car will shift later (at higher revs) for a more aggressive/sportyride

3) Sport Plus: very aggressive, transmission will not shift until it reachesred line.

With Sport Chrono, engaging the Sport or Sport Plus button will also change thethrottle mapping so you get more throttle with less movement of the throttlepedal. It can take a while to get used to this, because it makes the throttlepedal more sensitive to input.

[Dntlvet]

Dntlver,

Sport Chrono is a MUST is you get a car With PDK, as itgives you 3 different shift mapping patterns when in auto shift mode.

1) Normal: the car will shift as early as possible for maximum comfort and gasmileage

2) Sport: the car will shift later (at higher revs) for a more aggressive/sportyride

3) Sport Plus: very aggressive, transmission will not shift until it reachesred line.

With Sport Chrono, engaging the Sport or Sport Plus button will also change thethrottle mapping so you get more throttle with less movement of the throttlepedal. It can take a while to get used to this, because it makes the throttlepedal more sensitive to input.

I thank those that have replied in this discussion thread.

I am very interested in the 911 Turbo CAB

I'm looking at the 08 and 09s and I think Phillip told me there are a lot of them out there.

They certainly are out there on autotrader, but the 09s are ~120K 08s ~100-110K.

I have learned that the DME is a must part of PPI

and certified cars (from Phillip's experience) are optimal.

I should start a new topic but thought I'd ask if a Zurich Warrantee is good.

I have an Audi dealer looking to sell an 08 911 TT with Zuric Warrantee

for 72mo and 60K miles and the dealer states the zurich wannantee is better than a certified car with respect to coverages and lack of omitted coverages.

Thoughts appreciated!!!