997 to Gen 2 led drl light conversion (front)

[996turbotim]

Hi all, got all the parts needed to do my front bumper conversion to Gen2, just waiting to get bumper out of the paint shop.

My question is does anybody know how to wire the drl's/ indicators up?

Ive got the new control unit and even the new gen2 loom for front but ive been told wires need cutting and joining , my local OPC will code it in , i was hoping someone might be able to help me with a wiring diagram, i am confident of completing this job myself just need the instructions, will post my results and fotos on here when finished,

Many Many Thanks Tim. :drive: :thankyou:

[PAULSPEED]

Here is the wiring diagram for a 996 car. Should

be real similar.

Paul

[Loren]

Here is the wiring diagram for a 996 car. Should

be real similar.

Paul

No, no no. Not even close.

997-1 and 997-2 even use different different control units - tied into the CAN bus.

At minimum he will need a control unit from a 997-2 - figure out the wiring and program it with a PIWIS tester..

[996turbotim]

Here is the wiring diagram for a 996 car. Should

be real similar.

Paul

No, no no. Not even close.

997-1 and 997-2 even use different different control units - tied into the CAN bus.

At minimum he will need a control unit from a 997-2 - figure out the wiring and program it with a PIWIS tester..

Yep, i have the control unit, just need to know what to cut and what to join.

[996turbotim]

Here is the wiring diagram for a 996 car. Should

be real similar.

Paul

Hi paul,

thanks for diagram but need diagram from 997-1 and 997-2 and hopefully some instructions on what to cut and what to join, surely somebody else must have done this conversion, i hope so

regards Tim

[996turbotim]

Here is the wiring diagram for a 996 car. Should

be real similar.

Paul

Hi paul,

thanks for diagram but need diagram from 997-1 and 997-2 and hopefully some instructions on what to cut and what to join, surely somebody else must have done this conversion, i hope so

regards Tim

Hi guys just a quick note to say i have finished my front end conversion to gen2 and it looks awsome. as my car is a 4s the front grilles(997 505 563/4 05 9b1) are titanium and this looks really good against basalt black. A mechanic from an OPC converted my loom for me and charged £250 ($410), it took him about 20 minutes to do, when you turn ignition on the front leds come on, then when you turn lights on they dim , however if you want them really bright again just put on the foglight switch. only problems i had were the headlight washer units (997 628 163 01)are different on a gen2 and the mk1's cant be retro fitted, and also the centre duct surround (997 505 541 03 01c) also needs an additional air deflector to deflect the air to your rads, porsche part is called air routing (997 575 141 04 1c), even the dealer didnt know i had to have this, all in all well worth the hassle, car is going in next week for the rears to be done which as you guys know is really straightforward, well at long last its done , see attatched foto.

Regards 997t

[phillipj]

Looks beautiful!! Nice job. :clapping: Awesome you could do that yourself. Be sure to post more pictures when you get the rears done..

[JeTexas]

Was this car already a 997 or had you facelifted a 996 to a 997 and then again to the second gen 997?

[phillipj]

His profile says he has a 2006 997 C4 (So that would be Gen 1.)

Edited November 2, 2009 by phillipj

[Paulpdt]

Hi I am looking to do the Gen2 upgrade myself , do you know the part number for the front lights.

Thanks

[Hamad]

Here is the wiring diagram for a 996 car. Should

be real similar.

Paul

Hi paul,

thanks for diagram but need diagram from 997-1 and 997-2 and hopefully some instructions on what to cut and what to join, surely somebody else must have done this conversion, i hope so

regards Tim

Hi guys just a quick note to say i have finished my front end conversion to gen2 and it looks awsome. as my car is a 4s the front grilles(997 505 563/4 05 9b1) are titanium and this looks really good against basalt black. A mechanic from an OPC converted my loom for me and charged £250 ($410), it took him about 20 minutes to do, when you turn ignition on the front leds come on, then when you turn lights on they dim , however if you want them really bright again just put on the foglight switch. only problems i had were the headlight washer units (997 628 163 01)are different on a gen2 and the mk1's cant be retro fitted, and also the centre duct surround (997 505 541 03 01c) also needs an additional air deflector to deflect the air to your rads, porsche part is called air routing (997 575 141 04 1c), even the dealer didnt know i had to have this, all in all well worth the hassle, car is going in next week for the rears to be done which as you guys know is really straightforward, well at long last its done , see attatched foto.

Regards 997t

very cool! any warranty issues?

[Paulpdt]

Do you need a new control unit for the front LED lights or just wiring mods.

Thanks Paul

[996turbotim]

Do you need a new control unit for the front LED lights or just wiring mods.

Thanks Paul

Hi Paul, yes you do need a new control unit if your car is pre 2007.5,

regards Tim

[996turbotim]

Was this car already a 997 or had you facelifted a 996 to a 997 and then again to the second gen 997?

Car is a 2006 997 c4 cab

[996turbotim]

Here is the wiring diagram for a 996 car. Should

be real similar.

Paul

Hi paul,

thanks for diagram but need diagram from 997-1 and 997-2 and hopefully some instructions on what to cut and what to join, surely somebody else must have done this conversion, i hope so

regards Tim

Hi guys just a quick note to say i have finished my front end conversion to gen2 and it looks awsome. as my car is a 4s the front grilles(997 505 563/4 05 9b1) are titanium and this looks really good against basalt black. A mechanic from an OPC converted my loom for me and charged £250 ($410), it took him about 20 minutes to do, when you turn ignition on the front leds come on, then when you turn lights on they dim , however if you want them really bright again just put on the foglight switch. only problems i had were the headlight washer units (997 628 163 01)are different on a gen2 and the mk1's cant be retro fitted, and also the centre duct surround (997 505 541 03 01c) also needs an additional air deflector to deflect the air to your rads, porsche part is called air routing (997 575 141 04 1c), even the dealer didnt know i had to have this, all in all well worth the hassle, car is going in next week for the rears to be done which as you guys know is really straightforward, well at long last its done , see attatched foto.

Regards 997t

Just a quick update to the post, new led rears now fitted. i also have a turbo bootlid fitted and a turbo bumper, car looks dope (awsome) looks £85000 worth with mods and £100 996 hardtop from ebay.

[Whiter00m]

Hi Turbotim,

Very nice lights!

Looks like you have a complete new front and rear bumper in order to fit the gen2 led's is that correct?

Have you a rough figure on the total cost?

Cheers

WR

[Richard Hamilton]

I just noticed this kit from Design911 in the UK: http://www.design911.co.uk/fu/pt70_1361_-cma81-cmo117-ct340/Porsche/997-MKI--911--2005--/997-Carrera-S-2005--/LED-Daytime-Running-Lamps/

Nice, but a bit pricy.

[996turbotim]

Hi Turbotim,

Very nice lights!

Looks like you have a complete new front and rear bumper in order to fit the gen2 led's is that correct?

Have you a rough figure on the total cost?

Cheers

WR

Hi there, Front bumper from ebay £80, plus £150 to paint, led drl £140 per side new, gen2 mini loom £25 per side new, grilles £25 per side new, headlight washers, £50 per side new, center duct £35 new, rad ducts £60 per side new, plus £200 to programme control unit and have it hacked, reprogramme and hack done by an official porsche centre mechanic, just under £1100 in total,

Rear was £350 per light, turbo bumper modded with top half of a damaged gen2 bumper, bumper £40 ebay, paint & plastic weld £400, reprogramme was in with front lights, didnt need to change rear control unit as my car is a 2007 my so £1140 all in, total cost was £2250 but was well worth it as car looks new, if you go down the route of new bumpers your looking £500 per bumper new, available from porscheshop.com, at the time i did mine the turbo facelift hadnt been released so as i had a turbo bumper already fitted it was cheaper to mod, the guy who did the lights is the only guy in the uk who can do the hack, ive just sold 2 front drls on ebay 2day for £250, there is currently an led rear light listed, as i said well worth it

regards Tim

[lunatica]

Hi Turbotim,

Very nice lights!

Looks like you have a complete new front and rear bumper in order to fit the gen2 led's is that correct?

Have you a rough figure on the total cost?

Cheers

WR

Hi there, Front bumper from ebay £80, plus £150 to paint, led drl £140 per side new, gen2 mini loom £25 per side new, grilles £25 per side new, headlight washers, £50 per side new, center duct £35 new, rad ducts £60 per side new, plus £200 to programme control unit and have it hacked, reprogramme and hack done by an official porsche centre mechanic, just under £1100 in total,

Rear was £350 per light, turbo bumper modded with top half of a damaged gen2 bumper, bumper £40 ebay, paint & plastic weld £400, reprogramme was in with front lights, didnt need to change rear control unit as my car is a 2007 my so £1140 all in, total cost was £2250 but was well worth it as car looks new, if you go down the route of new bumpers your looking £500 per bumper new, available from porscheshop.com, at the time i did mine the turbo facelift hadnt been released so as i had a turbo bumper already fitted it was cheaper to mod, the guy who did the lights is the only guy in the uk who can do the hack, ive just sold 2 front drls on ebay 2day for £250, there is currently an led rear light listed, as i said well worth it

regards Tim

Hi Tim - congrats!

I'm getting ready for the rear and front conversion of my '06 C2, couple of questions in regards to the front:

was going to order the factory Gen-2 bumper cover, center duct, R+L grilles, rad. ducts, washers,

- does the new bumper cover just bolt on like the Gen-1, or are modifications necessary?

To wire the new LED combo-lights:

- do I need a control modul to power the lights?

- If yes, do you have the parts-# ? is it 997 618 511 01 ???

- where in the front trunk do I have to look ?

- you mention R+L mini loom - can you explain some more how you did it and do you have the parts-# ?

THANKS for your help!

ralf

[996turbotim]

Hi Turbotim,

Very nice lights!

Looks like you have a complete new front and rear bumper in order to fit the gen2 led's is that correct?

Have you a rough figure on the total cost?

Cheers

WR

Hi there, Front bumper from ebay £80, plus £150 to paint, led drl £140 per side new, gen2 mini loom £25 per side new, grilles £25 per side new, headlight washers, £50 per side new, center duct £35 new, rad ducts £60 per side new, plus £200 to programme control unit and have it hacked, reprogramme and hack done by an official porsche centre mechanic, just under £1100 in total,

Rear was £350 per light, turbo bumper modded with top half of a damaged gen2 bumper, bumper £40 ebay, paint & plastic weld £400, reprogramme was in with front lights, didnt need to change rear control unit as my car is a 2007 my so £1140 all in, total cost was £2250 but was well worth it as car looks new, if you go down the route of new bumpers your looking £500 per bumper new, available from porscheshop.com, at the time i did mine the turbo facelift hadnt been released so as i had a turbo bumper already fitted it was cheaper to mod, the guy who did the lights is the only guy in the uk who can do the hack, ive just sold 2 front drls on ebay 2day for £250, there is currently an led rear light listed, as i said well worth it

regards Tim

Hi Tim - congrats!

I'm getting ready for the rear and front conversion of my '06 C2, couple of questions in regards to the front:

was going to order the factory Gen-2 bumper cover, center duct, R+L grilles, rad. ducts, washers,

- does the new bumper cover just bolt on like the Gen-1, or are modifications necessary?

To wire the new LED combo-lights:

- do I need a control modul to power the lights?

- If yes, do you have the parts-# ? is it 997 618 511 01 ???

- where in the front trunk do I have to look ?

- you mention R+L mini loom - can you explain some more how you did it and do you have the parts-# ?

THANKS for your help!

ralf

Hi ralf, you do need a new front control unit which needs some pins removing but i do not know how to do this as the guy who did mine for me kept it a secret as he is the only guy in the uk who can do it properly , and i guess knowledge is money, the module is on the drivers side front on a rhd car, the mini loom is the gen2 loom that connects to the gen2 lights, about 12 inches long, this needs to be spliced in to your existing loom, again i do not know the proceedure, will try and locate part numbers for you

, if you were in the uk i could have got work done for you,

regards Tim

[996turbotim]

I just noticed this kit from Design911 in the UK: http://www.design911...-Running-Lamps/

Nice, but a bit pricy.

Hi rich, totally agree, saw these before i did my conversion and managed to achieve gen2 front end for same price as just the lights, the gen2 porsche lights were only £130ish each,

speak soon Tim

[Whiter00m]

Hi Turbotim,

Very nice lights!

Looks like you have a complete new front and rear bumper in order to fit the gen2 led's is that correct?

Have you a rough figure on the total cost?

Cheers

WR

Hi there, Front bumper from ebay £80, plus £150 to paint, led drl £140 per side new, gen2 mini loom £25 per side new, grilles £25 per side new, headlight washers, £50 per side new, center duct £35 new, rad ducts £60 per side new, plus £200 to programme control unit and have it hacked, reprogramme and hack done by an official porsche centre mechanic, just under £1100 in total,

Rear was £350 per light, turbo bumper modded with top half of a damaged gen2 bumper, bumper £40 ebay, paint & plastic weld £400, reprogramme was in with front lights, didnt need to change rear control unit as my car is a 2007 my so £1140 all in, total cost was £2250 but was well worth it as car looks new, if you go down the route of new bumpers your looking £500 per bumper new, available from porscheshop.com, at the time i did mine the turbo facelift hadnt been released so as i had a turbo bumper already fitted it was cheaper to mod, the guy who did the lights is the only guy in the uk who can do the hack, ive just sold 2 front drls on ebay 2day for £250, there is currently an led rear light listed, as i said well worth it

regards Tim

Tim, Thanks for the detailed breakdown, its much appreciated and, may I say, very resourcefull of you.

Cheers

WR

[lunatica]

Hi Turbotim,

Very nice lights!

Looks like you have a complete new front and rear bumper in order to fit the gen2 led's is that correct?

Have you a rough figure on the total cost?

Cheers

WR

Hi there, Front bumper from ebay £80, plus £150 to paint, led drl £140 per side new, gen2 mini loom £25 per side new, grilles £25 per side new, headlight washers, £50 per side new, center duct £35 new, rad ducts £60 per side new, plus £200 to programme control unit and have it hacked, reprogramme and hack done by an official porsche centre mechanic, just under £1100 in total,

Rear was £350 per light, turbo bumper modded with top half of a damaged gen2 bumper, bumper £40 ebay, paint & plastic weld £400, reprogramme was in with front lights, didnt need to change rear control unit as my car is a 2007 my so £1140 all in, total cost was £2250 but was well worth it as car looks new, if you go down the route of new bumpers your looking £500 per bumper new, available from porscheshop.com, at the time i did mine the turbo facelift hadnt been released so as i had a turbo bumper already fitted it was cheaper to mod, the guy who did the lights is the only guy in the uk who can do the hack, ive just sold 2 front drls on ebay 2day for £250, there is currently an led rear light listed, as i said well worth it

regards Tim

Hi Tim - congrats!

I'm getting ready for the rear and front conversion of my '06 C2, couple of questions in regards to the front:

was going to order the factory Gen-2 bumper cover, center duct, R+L grilles, rad. ducts, washers,

- does the new bumper cover just bolt on like the Gen-1, or are modifications necessary?

To wire the new LED combo-lights:

- do I need a control modul to power the lights?

- If yes, do you have the parts-# ? is it 997 618 511 01 ???

- where in the front trunk do I have to look ?

- you mention R+L mini loom - can you explain some more how you did it and do you have the parts-# ?

THANKS for your help!

ralf

Hi ralf, you do need a new front control unit which needs some pins removing but i do not know how to do this as the guy who did mine for me kept it a secret as he is the only guy in the uk who can do it properly , and i guess knowledge is money, the module is on the drivers side front on a rhd car, the mini loom is the gen2 loom that connects to the gen2 lights, about 12 inches long, this needs to be spliced in to your existing loom, again i do not know the proceedure, will try and locate part numbers for you

, if you were in the uk i could have got work done for you,

regards Tim

Hi Tim,

Was trying to get the wiring diagrams from gen-1 and gen-2, in order to figure out the splicing, but so far was not able to find them. Do you think there is a chance that the mechanic who did yours would be willing to trade his knowledge for compensation and since I'm in the US (no competition)? Would you mind asking him when you have a chance?

Thank you,

ralf

[lunatica]

Hi Turbotim,

Very nice lights!

Looks like you have a complete new front and rear bumper in order to fit the gen2 led's is that correct?

Have you a rough figure on the total cost?

Cheers

WR

Hi there, Front bumper from ebay £80, plus £150 to paint, led drl £140 per side new, gen2 mini loom £25 per side new, grilles £25 per side new, headlight washers, £50 per side new, center duct £35 new, rad ducts £60 per side new, plus £200 to programme control unit and have it hacked, reprogramme and hack done by an official porsche centre mechanic, just under £1100 in total,

Rear was £350 per light, turbo bumper modded with top half of a damaged gen2 bumper, bumper £40 ebay, paint & plastic weld £400, reprogramme was in with front lights, didnt need to change rear control unit as my car is a 2007 my so £1140 all in, total cost was £2250 but was well worth it as car looks new, if you go down the route of new bumpers your looking £500 per bumper new, available from porscheshop.com, at the time i did mine the turbo facelift hadnt been released so as i had a turbo bumper already fitted it was cheaper to mod, the guy who did the lights is the only guy in the uk who can do the hack, ive just sold 2 front drls on ebay 2day for £250, there is currently an led rear light listed, as i said well worth it

regards Tim

Hi Tim - congrats!

I'm getting ready for the rear and front conversion of my '06 C2, couple of questions in regards to the front:

was going to order the factory Gen-2 bumper cover, center duct, R+L grilles, rad. ducts, washers,

- does the new bumper cover just bolt on like the Gen-1, or are modifications necessary?

To wire the new LED combo-lights:

- do I need a control modul to power the lights?

- If yes, do you have the parts-# ? is it 997 618 511 01 ???

- where in the front trunk do I have to look ?

- you mention R+L mini loom - can you explain some more how you did it and do you have the parts-# ?

THANKS for your help!

ralf

Hi ralf, you do need a new front control unit which needs some pins removing but i do not know how to do this as the guy who did mine for me kept it a secret as he is the only guy in the uk who can do it properly , and i guess knowledge is money, the module is on the drivers side front on a rhd car, the mini loom is the gen2 loom that connects to the gen2 lights, about 12 inches long, this needs to be spliced in to your existing loom, again i do not know the proceedure, will try and locate part numbers for you

, if you were in the uk i could have got work done for you,

regards Tim

Hi Tim,

Was trying to get the wiring diagrams from gen-1 and gen-2, in order to figure out the splicing, but so far was not able to find them. Do you think there is a chance that the mechanic who did yours would be willing to trade his knowledge for compensation and since I'm in the US (no competition)? Would you mind asking him when you have a chance?

Thank you,

ralf

UPDATE:

Since nobody seems be able to provide details exactly how to splice in the wire-harness connecting to the new LED dl's and how to re-pin the needed gen-2 front control box, and also my quest for obtaining wiring diagrams was without success,

I guess I found the EASY way out - ordered a prepared front-connecting kit (containing a control box and all needed wiring), plug-and-play, no extra coding needed. Available from Germany's reputable tuner ALBERT-Motorsports - the set cost w/out the 19% (!) german sales tax 270.- Euros + 45 Euros DHL to San Fran, which translates to $420. Not too bad, considering that also the factory control-module runs $250 and you don't need to pay a porsche mechanic for coding it. Go to:

www.albert-motorsport.de/fahrzeugkatalog/997/997-beleuchtung/997-led-update-schaltgeraete.html

I only ordered the front set, since the rear should work just fine with the "2009 2nd Gen LED Tail Light Kit" I ordered from SUNCOAST (btw, they also offer the brand new "clear" tail lights!):

www.suncoastparts.com/product/997G2.html?Category_Code=997lights

Cheers,

ralf

[p val]

I just noticed this kit from Design911 in the UK: http://www.design911.co.uk/fu/pt70_1361_-cma81-cmo117-ct340/Porsche/997-MKI--911--2005--/997-Carrera-S-2005--/LED-Daytime-Running-Lamps/

Nice, but a bit pricy.

i have an 06 carrera S, if i get these lights will i need to change bumper and everything else or this is just plug-n-play