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Brake lights on while driving

candotrackdog
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candotrackdog Member

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I have recently purchased a 2001 Boxster. Today I was flagged by someone behind me to tell me my brake lights were on while going down the road. The top was down. I didn't know if it could be crimping a wire, so I put it up and the lights were still on. They are not staying on when the car is off. I tried pushing the brake while the car was off, and I have no brake lights.

Anyone else have this happen? Anywhere I should look first?

Thanks

candotrackdog Member

candotrackdog

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:welcome:

I would start with the brake light switch on the pedal.

Thanks Loren. I will do that, but do your brake lights come on when the car is off? Anyway to tell if the switch has failed? There is only 16 + K on the car.

Richard Hamilton Member

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Loren is correct to suggest starting with the switch. Can you engage the cruise control? If not, then it most likely is the switch, and it might simply have gone out of adjustment. Here's what the shop manual says:

Checking brake light switch setting:

The pedal must move a perceptible distance of approx. 5 to 10 mm before the brake light lights up.

At the same time, check (make sure) that the brake light lights up before the pedal meets perceptible resistance or before brake pressure builds up.

There are two possibilities to adjust the switch if the pedal travel to the switching point is too small.

1st possibility:

- Press the brake pedal and pull out the switch plunger.

- Release the pedal. Check adjustment

2nd possibility:

- Release switch by turning it 90deg and pull it out of the installation opening.

- Pull operating plunger out of the switch as far as it will go.

- Reinstall the switch.

When installing the switch for the first time, it is essential to press it vertically against the bearing surface. It will otherwise not be possible to lock the switch (90deg turn), even if great force is exerted.

Note

A play-free fit of the switch is no longer ensured after it has been installed and removed several times. The switch must be replaced by a new switch as soon as it perceptibly "wobbles" in its receiver.

Adjusting switch if pedal travel is too large:

Press pedal and press plunger into the switch by one notch (audible click).

The pedal travel to the switching point then decreases by approx. 3... 4 mm.

Then check setting again.

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whall Member

whall

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The brake lights do not illuminate on the 996 (US) or 986 (US) unless the ignition switch is in the number 1 (run) position....at least mine don't.

Bill

candotrackdog Member

candotrackdog

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Well, I tried the switch. I could not move the plunger while installed, so I removed the switch, pulled the plunger all the way out, and no brake lights, even when the pedal was depressed. I removed the switch again and tried to push it in one notch. The lights sorta flickered. Pulled the switch again, tried to push it in one notch, but it went too far. I tried to figure out where I was on the notches, but never got the lights to work again. The switch now has a perceptible wobble and I have to replace (I guess) I see on one website that there are two different switches. Does anyone know which one is correct for a cruise equipped 2001 car?

Thanks.

N41EF Member

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Not sure where you are located, or how far the closest dealer is, but that would be the first option. I'm sure there is a part number on the old switch, but if there are two part numbers that might not be correct either.

I'm sure a call to sunset could get one on the way quickly.

I checked a website "e German Parts" that has an online catalog. It lists two parts, but one is for the parking brake, one is the pedal, and it says fits with or without cruise control. And a price of about 13 bucks. Advance lists one switch, so does worldpac.

Richard Hamilton Member

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Well, I tried the switch. I could not move the plunger while installed, so I removed the switch, pulled the plunger all the way out, and no brake lights, even when the pedal was depressed. I removed the switch again and tried to push it in one notch. The lights sorta flickered. Pulled the switch again, tried to push it in one notch, but it went too far. I tried to figure out where I was on the notches, but never got the lights to work again. The switch now has a perceptible wobble and I have to replace (I guess) I see on one website that there are two different switches. Does anyone know which one is correct for a cruise equipped 2001 car?

Thanks.

The part number should be written on the switch.

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RFM Member

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The part # is 996 613 113 01 if the car is equipped with the BROWN colored body brake switch, price = € 8.00

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jokifun Member

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Trying to use an old topic.

I´we just installed a new break light switch. (There is no question that was the problem since, upon examination, the switch was broken.)

My problem is that after installing the new switch the breaklights is always on. It doesn´t matter if is installed in its installation opening or just hanging free. There is neither any difference if it is pushed or not. According to my Ohm-meter the switch seems to work as should.

Since I dont wish to drive around with my breaks always "on". Any ideas?

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Loren Member

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Trying to use an old topic.

I´we just installed a new break light switch. (There is no question that was the problem since, upon examination, the switch was broken.)

My problem is that after installing the new switch the breaklights is always on. It doesn´t matter if is installed in its installation opening or just hanging free. There is neither any difference if it is pushed or not. According to my Ohm-meter the switch seems to work as should.

Since I dont wish to drive around with my breaks always "on". Any ideas?

The pedal must move a perceptible distance of approx. 5 to 10 mm before the brake light lights up.
At the same time, check (make sure) that the brake light lights up before the pedal meets perceptible resistance or before brake pressure builds up.
There are two possibilities to adjust the switch if the pedal travel to the switching point is too small.
1st possibility:
- Press the brake pedal and pull out the switch plunger.
- Release the pedal. Check adjustment
2nd possibility:
- Release switch by turning it 900 and pull it out of the installation opening.
- Pull operating plunger out of the switch as far as it will go.
- Reinstall the switch.
When installing the switch for the first time, it is essential to press it vertically against the bearing surface. It will otherwise not be possible to lock the switch (90 degree turn), even if great force is exerted.
Note: A play-free fit of the switch is no longer ensured after it has been installed and removed several times. The switch must be replaced by a new switch as soon as it perceptibly "wobbles" in its receiver.
mnc-i Member

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On my 1999 Boxster the brake lights do not work unless the ignition is on.

I ordered a replacement brake switch when I had trouble shifting out of park (shift lever button would not go down when I pressed it).

I new switch I ordered from Pelican Parts was about $10.75 U.S. It was slightly different is size and looks. With the new switch in my brake lights would not go off.

I went back and ordered the OEM switch from Pelican Parts (approximately $22.00 U.S.). My brake lights work perfectly, but I still have issues shifting out of park. I depress the shift button on the lever as I turn the ignition key.

My two cents.

MNC-I

jokifun Member

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I new switch I ordered from Pelican Parts was about $10.75 U.S. It was slightly different is size and looks. With the new switch in my brake lights would not go off.

That seems to be the same problem as I´m having - break lights wont turn off.

Could it be that my fault is due to having bought the wrong part? I have bought the clutch switch. I was lead to believe that the clutch and the break light switch are the same even thou they have different codes and one is brown, the other one red.

mnc-i Member

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Jokifun,

You are absolutely correct.

Pelican parts listed two brake light switches for the 1997-2004 Boxster

a) 996-613-113-02-M100 (genuine Porsche) for $22.00

b) 996-613-113-02-M85 for $10.75

So I went with the cheaper part, which was the wrong answer.

MNC-I

jokifun Member

jokifun

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Now I have it working! I used the bottom part from the old switch and the button part from the new switch.

OK, they are different parts. Note to self - always remember to buy the correct part! :oops:

But this is far from logic:

-On my newly bought (clutch-)switch, there are three part numbers

996.613.111.01

996.613.113.02

996.613.114.01

The middle number seems to be the same as for the break switch.

-Some Porsche sites suggest switching them over if you get problems with the break lights.

-They look the same (inside and out) accept for color.

-My parts dealer have them listed as the same part.

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