GT3 Moderate Brake Pad Options?

[RonCT]

First off, I did a search and read every post in 997 and 996 GT3 regarding brake pads. Didn't find a detailed answer, so here goes...

I've run all sorts of brake pads on my cars... PFC 97s, 01s, Pagid Oranges, Blacks 14s, and Yellow 29s. Not to mention OEM for 997S and GT3.

I'm looking for a pad that's "better" than the 997 GT3 OEM but quieter on the street than the Blacks or Yellows (RS29s). I don't like the Oranges whatsoever. I know, the 29s I have on the car now are the ultimate for track driving, but they are pretty bad for the street where I put on half my miles (noise, dust, etc.). I'll sacrifice some track capability to get rid of that school bus squeal. I know, I can continually bed them, but where I live that's not so easy, safe, or convenient.

So, there's Pagid Black 4-2-1 (is this OEM compound?) and Pagid Blue 4-2 that may be worth trying, but I'd rather not before asking the group. Has anyone confirmed the actual compound of the OEM pad? Has anyone tried the Blues?

By the way, here's some data I found:

Black 4-2-1:

A very stable material with low disc wear. It has a wide operating range with good low temperature performance and low brake noise. Fitted as original equipment on many high performance road vehicles, this is the best all round pad for road use.

Friction Level Cold 0.36

At 100°C 0.38

At 300°C 0.42

Max 0.45 @ 500°C

Constant working temperature 300 - 500°C

Max temperature for short period only 550°C

Blue 4-2:

The most popular material, (known as 'Pagid Blue'), RS4-2 gives a good low temperature response. It is very stable, with superior modulation and feel. RS4-2 has a medium co-efficient of friction with good pad and disc life. Suitable for many applications especially gravel rally and wet tarmac, where control is needed.

Friction Level Cold 0.40

At 100°C 0.42

At 300°C 0.43

Max 0.46 @ 550°C

Constant working temperature 350 - 600°C

Max temperature for short period only 650°C

Thanks!

[PAULSPEED]

I use the blues and like them alot. I

also use copaslip on the pads. Works

real good. Yes I do do some track

events.

Paul

[RonCT]

Discovered the blues don't come in GT3 sizes... Only OEM, Black 14, Blue RS5 (new and very race oriented), Yellow 19 and 29. So, not much to pick from to try something "in between". Wondering now about other pad makers...

[PAULSPEED]

I would stick with Pagrid. Nothing is worse

then having the pad leave the metal.

Let us know what other brand you went with.

Paul

[PAULSPEED]

I was looking thru my cdoc catalogue and they sell Hawk

brakes. The bad thing is they do not show 997 GT-3 rear

brakes (only fronts).

Paul