Help needed to fix rear speaker install

[PaulE]

Hello All,

Yesterday I started and nearly completed installation of the rear speaker kit PNA-986-KIT in my 2003 Boxster S. My car has the basic radio with one disk CD player in the unit and only the dashboard speakers, no trunk mounted 6 CD unit, no amplifier or door speakers. I followed the Pelican Parts article on this topic and everything went fine until I got to connecting the rear speaker wire leads to the brown power socket on the back of the head unit.

Even though I don't have an amplifier, I incorrectly put the four rear speaker female recepticle leads into the brown block to connect them to the additional piece of harness for the amplifier that came with the kit, instead of inserting them in the brown power socket that connects directly on the back of the radio unit. Although I tried to carefully remove the female recepticle rear speaker leads from the amplifier socket, I broke one and one of the others may also have been damaged.

Is there anywhere I can obtain some of these speaker lead female recepticle terminal ends to finish my rear speaker installation?

I've searched this forum and elsewhere on the internet without success. The closest thing I may have found is a Becker wiring harness with part number 1163.736-276.

I've sent an e-mail to Becker's parts department, and I'm waiting to hear back from them. If my only option to obtain the female recepticle terminal ends I need is to buy that harness from Becker, ok. But in that case I'll still need instructions and the right tool to remove those leads so that I can add them to my rear speaker leads and insert them into the existing brown socket to the radio.

Thanks in advance for any help or insight you can provide me in finishing this project.

[Cassiebox]

check radio shack if all you need are the female pins. Most stores have drawers full of various sized pins and connectors. Good luck :)

[Tool Pants]

I have the rear speaker kit that I have not put in yet.

There is a loose brown connector in a plastic bag, and a long wiring harnes with 4 female pins on the end in the same bag. First pic. Since you have no amp you should have used that loose connector.

There is a second brown connector that has male pins. This is the short extension in the second pic.

In which brown connector did you stick the 4 female pins?

A picture of your situation would be nice.

[PaulE]

Thanks for the replies.

check radio shack if all you need are the female pins. Most stores have drawers full of various sized pins and connectors. Good luck :)

I tried Radio Shack, both online and going into a store. All of the pins they stock are "Molex" type, which isn't what Porsche uses here. If I had a name or manufacturer for the type of female pins Porsche uses here, I could find it from a Google search. I've found a lot of suppliers for all types of automotive electrical wiring connectors, but without their name, finding these exact pins is truly looking for a needle in a haystack.

I have the rear speaker kit that I have not put in yet.

There is a loose brown connector in a plastic bag, and a long wiring harnes with 4 female pins on the end in the same bag. First pic. Since you have no amp you should have used that loose connector.

There is a second brown connector that has male pins. This is the short extension in the second pic.

In which brown connector did you stick the 4 female pins?

A picture of your situation would be nice.

Originally I put the 4 pins at the end of the very long wiring harness into the outboard positions of the loose brown connector in your picture on the left. Then I thought that loose connector is meant to connect to the short extension if you have an amp. I believe the female pins on the end of the long wiring harness are meant to go directly into the outboard positions of the brown connector that is already attached to the radio, because otherwise there is no place to complete a circuit and connect the rear speakers to the radio. So I took the 4 female pins out of the loose connector, destroying that connector in the process, and inserted them into the outboard positions of the brown connector already at the back of the radio. 2 of the female pins went in ok, 1 went in with some difficulty, and the 4th pin would not go in all the way and eventually broke.

The loose female pins I'm looking for are exactly the loose ones you have in the picture on the left. My kit did not come with any extra pins like those.

I'm going to try calling Becker today. If I'm not successful, I'll take some pictures.

PS, other than my little mistake here, this was a fairly straightforward project. The most difficult part was cutting out the outboard storage bins and the additional shaping required of the outboard bottom corners of the openings and the speaker grills so that the grills would fit flush in the outboard corners.

Thanks again.

Edited August 12, 2008 by PaulE

[Tool Pants]

You can buy the pins from Porsche. Part number is N-903-352-04. They look like the pic.

The tool to remove. Paper clip. Factory tool with the red handle. Or the orange Sir Tools.

[PaulE]

You can buy the pins from Porsche. Part number is N-903-352-04. They look like the pic.

The tool to remove. Paper clip. Factory tool with the red handle. Or the orange Sir Tools.

Hey, thanks for the information. How do you find a part number for something like that? I called Sunset Imports who I bought the speaker kit from and the parts person I spoke with didn't know of a Porsche part # for the pin or how to get it.

A family medical emergency took me away for a few days, so please don't think I got what I wanted and it's see ya later!

Before your last response and the medical emergency kicked in, I tried a google search for the Miboool, which led to another board which led to a German site that sells the tool and the pins, which led me to find out these pins are made by AMP/Tyco. I found a US site to order the AMP/TYCO pins and tool. They actually make quite a few different versions of these pins, all the same size but with different metals. I ordered 10 of 4 different versions they had in stock as well as the tool. Tomorrow I should be listening to my Boxster radio from front and rear speakers.

I bought the tool as I don't think two paperclips will do it for me. I was using two micro screwdrivers and it didn't work so well.

If anyone wants the website I ordered the pins and tool from or the AMP/Tyco part numbers I would be happy to provide them. I didn't put them in this post as a new guy and I don't want anyone to think I'm advertising anything.

Thanks again from a new member.

[Tool Pants]

You use 1 bent paperclip. There are 2 clips in the picture because one is the thin kind and the other thicker.

I spent 9 years hunting down little parts like those pins. Drives the parts guys crazy when I order 25 cent pins just so I can see what they look like.

AMP/TYCO does make the electrical connectors throughout the car. This link helps because it has pictures of some of the different styles. http://www.nsxjr.com/Audipins.html

Mibooltool makes the red handle set my local dealer has. http://www.mibostahl.com/ Other companies make the same style tools. Thought about buying a set but it is expensive.

In the past I have searched around for US sources for these type of electrical parts and the removal tools. If you found a good one then you should do a link.

[PaulE]

You use 1 bent paperclip. There are 2 clips in the picture because one is the thin kind and the other thicker.

I spent 9 years hunting down little parts like those pins. Drives the parts guys crazy when I order 25 cent pins just so I can see what they look like.

AMP/TYCO does make the electrical connectors throughout the car. This link helps because it has pictures of some of the different styles. http://www.nsxjr.com/Audipins.html

Mibooltool makes the red handle set my local dealer has. http://www.mibostahl.com/ Other companies make the same style tools. Thought about buying a set but it is expensive.

In the past I have searched around for US sources for these type of electrical parts and the removal tools. If you found a good one then you should do a link.

I bought my parts and tool from www.Onlinecomponents.com. I chose them because they are in the US, I could purchase small quantities and I could get the pins and the tool from one place overnight. Some other websites had minimum quantities in the 1,000's, I think this site only required a $35 minimum which was no problem with the tool. They also have the AMP/Tyco part numbers so you can cross check them on the Tyco website here - http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/TE/bin/...p;LG=1&I=13. Both of these sites both have drawings and very technical spec's for the parts. The German site I found originally is where I learned that these pins are AMP/TYCO and that site had mfr. part #'s.

As I said, I ordered a few of 4 different pins. They are all identical in shape and size, but made of slightly different metals. On some you can clearly see they are bi-metal, with a brass or copper part and a silver part. Tomorrow I'll see which ones look closest to the ones on my car. This site's online chat support was also helpful, I asked them if they had the tool for these pins and they found the part # for me. This is what I ended up buying, the $60 item is the tool and the other items are all pins:

Line Manufacturer Part No./Ref # Price

1 AMP / TYCO 964274-2 $.165

2 AMP / TYCO 964275-2 $.269

3 AMP / TYCO 964274-3 $.285

4 AMP / TYCO 539960-1 $60.89

5 AMP / TYCO 962876-2 $.147

Edited August 16, 2008 by PaulE

[PaulE]

Hey I'm not so smart after all, the clips and tool I bought are the wrong ones, so please don't buy them for this purpose. These clips are about 2/3 as long and about 1/2 as thick as the Porsche ones. I'm going away for a week and I'll get back on this when I get back.

[PaulE]

Hi, I'm back finally.

The rear speaker install is completed and everything works. Other than my screw up on the wiring everything was pretty straightforward and the how-to instructions on the Pelican Parts website are spot-on. Here are a couple fo things I found out along the way:

The Porsche wiring instructions tell how to connect the red wire, green wire and two black ground wires, however the kit has a black wire with a yellow stripe and a black wire with a white stripe, plus two black ground wires. After I got my new pins, I installed the rear speaker wires in the radio's brown terminal socket in the positions that match the positions for these wires in the brown terminal socket for use with the amplifier.

There is no radio code for the CDR23 radio in the 2003 Boxster S. After I finished the installation and reatttached the battery, I looked through all my paperwork and couldn't find a radio code. I turned the car on and the radio face said "PORSCHE", so I just turned on the radio and it worked. My radio presets were all still there too, even though the radio was disconnected for a couple of weeks.

AMP/Tyco's cross-reference for the pin, Porsche part number N-903-352-04, is Junior Power Timer contact part # 927771-1. AMP/Tyco's part # for the extraction tool is 1-1579007-6. If you have a Porsche part number for an item made by AMP/Tyco, you can send an e-mail to Tyco at their website here and they will give you the corresponding AMP/Tyco part #:

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As I needed the tool also and I didn't want to order just 4 pins from a Porsche dealer, having the AMP/Tyco # for the pin was a big help to me. The rear speakers were a worthwhile upgrade for my car which originally only had speakers in the dashboard.

[chaudanova]

Hi, I'm back finally.

The rear speaker install is completed and everything works. Other than my screw up on the wiring everything was pretty straightforward and the how-to instructions on the Pelican Parts website are spot-on. Here are a couple fo things I found out along the way:

The Porsche wiring instructions tell how to connect the red wire, green wire and two black ground wires, however the kit has a black wire with a yellow stripe and a black wire with a white stripe, plus two black ground wires. After I got my new pins, I installed the rear speaker wires in the radio's brown terminal socket in the positions that match the positions for these wires in the brown terminal socket for use with the amplifier.

There is no radio code for the CDR23 radio in the 2003 Boxster S. After I finished the installation and reatttached the battery, I looked through all my paperwork and couldn't find a radio code. I turned the car on and the radio face said "PORSCHE", so I just turned on the radio and it worked. My radio presets were all still there too, even though the radio was disconnected for a couple of weeks.

AMP/Tyco's cross-reference for the pin, Porsche part number N-903-352-04, is Junior Power Timer contact part # 927771-1. AMP/Tyco's part # for the extraction tool is 1-1579007-6. If you have a Porsche part number for an item made by AMP/Tyco, you can send an e-mail to Tyco at their website here and they will give you the corresponding AMP/Tyco part #:

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Z2U9MQ**

As I needed the tool also and I didn't want to order just 4 pins from a Porsche dealer, having the AMP/Tyco # for the pin was a big help to me. The rear speakers were a worthwhile upgrade for my car which originally only had speakers in the dashboard.

In case you, or anyone who is interested and needs it, I have a brand new wiring harness kit from the rear speaker kit available..

Edited September 7, 2008 by chaudanova