Need a few Techincal Manual Instructions

[usaf-lt-g]

Allright, well here's another question. I located the correct "relay" i need to connect the 2 wires from the Interior mirror to. However, it appears there's some plastic covering over it. Am I supossed to remove this? or just place the wires through the holes into an available connection? I tried seeing if there was some "snazzy" way to remove it, and tried using a flat-head to take it off, but it doesn't seem to come off. It's also in a somewhat difficult location to reach.

Upper left corner is what i'm talking about...

Here's another image

Also I took your advice, and glad I did. I headed over to radio shack this morning and found EXACTLY what I was looking for. The pins only came in their "serial port" connection kit, but I tested them to make sure they fit. If anyone else is ever interested in this mod, you'll want to get a 9-Position Female D-Sub Connector kit. Part # 276-1428. Below are the pictures

Kit

Picture of the pins themselves

Thanks again for your help guys... Sorry if it's annoying.

:thankyou:

Edited June 3, 2008 by usaf-lt-g

[juniinc]

Are U refering to those white covers? if U are , not supposed to touch it.

Your 2nd question would be the answer

Pull the relay out to acess .

Edited June 16, 2009 by juniinc

[usaf-lt-g]

Are U refering to those white covers? if U are , not supposed to touch it.

Your 2nd question would be the answer

Pull the relay out to acess .

Now I'm worried if U are qualified to tackle this project,,,HAHAHA :rolleyes:

I'm actually referring to the black piece upper left. According to the diagram this is where I am supossed to plug the wires. Is in through that black piece into one of the red connectors. The wire has one of those special snap in plugs.

According to the diagram, BS 16/2 is located here:

Which in my bay is this circled area here:

Here's the two wires I need to connect:

And there connectors:

The instructions read the following:

BK/OR wire = Plug wire into an "unused" pin of multi-pin bridge plug BS 16/2 found in Relay Support 1

BR wire = Plug wire into an "unused" pin of multi-pin bridge plug BS 11, found in Relay Support 1

So the question is, if the above photos show where BS 16/2 is, which is currently unused. Is there a way to take that black piece off to plug the connection into one of the "un-used" pins? Because I can't seem to get that off. Or am I just extremely confused here?

-Chris-

[juniinc]

Take a loo at that black piece,,,black plate is the base where relay plugs into.

see if U can see the female/male pins under the black plastic piece(fixed),or just floating in there.

in that case u will need to modify those 2pins.

Edited June 4, 2008 by juniinc

[usaf-lt-g]

Hmmm... <_< There's got to be a way to get that black cover off. Why would they have attached these special connections to the harness with no other instructions other than to plug em into a loose slot in the plug? I honestly don't see how you're supossed to be able to plug a wire in there anyways unless there's someway to get that black piece off.

**** I'm so close to... these are the last wires I have to finish, then I can put her all back together and finally get my garage clean.

[juniinc]

Have U tried to put it in the hole itself on that black plate?

like I said earlier , U need to pull 1 of those relays & see

Yours should be the same way

Hmmm... <_< There's got to be a way to get that black cover off. Why would they have attached these special connections to the harness with no other instructions other than to plug em into a loose slot in the plug? I honestly don't see how you're supossed to be able to plug a wire in there anyways unless there's someway to get that black piece off.

**** I'm so close to... these are the last wires I have to finish, then I can put her all back together and finally get my garage clean.

[usaf-lt-g]

Have U tried to put it in the hole itself on that black plate?

like I said earlier , U need to pull 1 of those relays & see

Yours should be the same way

Hmmm... <_< There's got to be a way to get that black cover off. Why would they have attached these special connections to the harness with no other instructions other than to plug em into a loose slot in the plug? I honestly don't see how you're supossed to be able to plug a wire in there anyways unless there's someway to get that black piece off.

**** I'm so close to... these are the last wires I have to finish, then I can put her all back together and finally get my garage clean.

Yep... I tried that... It's literally like "putting a square peg in a round hole" ;) Doesn't fit.

[usaf-lt-g]

Wait a second...

I just read something.... earlier in the install.

2.6 - Remove the fuse carrier, carpet lining, and relay carrier, cutting tie wraps where necessary.

Is this telling me I have to somehow "remove" the relay carrier?? and the fuse carrier? I basically just took off the carpet lining thing for the fuse carrier and didn't think to remove the actually remove the entire fuse carrier and relay carrier. Is that even possible to do under there?

[juniinc]

take the black plate out!

are the wires even connected to those relay holes? have u looked

Have U tried to put it in the hole itself on that black plate?

like I said earlier , U need to pull 1 of those relays & see

Yours should be the same way

Hmmm... <_< There's got to be a way to get that black cover off. Why would they have attached these special connections to the harness with no other instructions other than to plug em into a loose slot in the plug? I honestly don't see how you're supossed to be able to plug a wire in there anyways unless there's someway to get that black piece off.

**** I'm so close to... these are the last wires I have to finish, then I can put her all back together and finally get my garage clean.

Yep... I tried that... It's literally like "putting a square peg in a round hole" ;) Doesn't fit.

Edited June 4, 2008 by juniinc

[usaf-lt-g]

then U need to modify those 2 pins to fit? or take the black plate out

are the wires even connected to those relay holes? have u looked

Have U tried to put it in the hole itself on that black plate?

like I said earlier , U need to pull 1 of those relays & see

Yours should be the same way

Hmmm... <_< There's got to be a way to get that black cover off. Why would they have attached these special connections to the harness with no other instructions other than to plug em into a loose slot in the plug? I honestly don't see how you're supossed to be able to plug a wire in there anyways unless there's someway to get that black piece off.

**** I'm so close to... these are the last wires I have to finish, then I can put her all back together and finally get my garage clean.

Yep... I tried that... It's literally like "putting a square peg in a round hole" ;) Doesn't fit.

Bingo, bango, bungo.... Unbelievable... I just dissassembled the fuse carrier AND the Relay carrier (boy was I lucky to have the right tools to get to the bolts for those, I was literally on my back under the driver wheel getting to them with a special extension tool (size 10 bolt for anyone who cares). Anyways...

After I got the relay support down guess what I found.... 2 Nice spots to plug into the BACK of the plugs, which the factory connections fit easy into.

Here's the nice Relay Support Bay after I took off the 2 10mm bolts. Boy was THIS fun to take down

Sorry for the bit of a hazzy picture here, but FINALLY I've located the CORRECT place to plug these wires into. This is a picture of the back side of BS 16/2. As you can see I've routed the wire to one of the "empty pins." Now can I please get off my back? This is an awkward position...

Now just to finish up the last wire and put the beast back together and test.

[Q-Ship986]

FYI, what you are tapping into is called a bridge plug; these are identified on the schematic as "BS" and then a number. Sorry I didn't read this sooner, but glad you figured out you had to remove the relay carrier to get to them.

Make absolutely sure you tapped into the correct bridge plug, since your perspective is different whether you are looking at the relay carrier from the front vs. the back.

--Brian

Edited June 4, 2008 by Q-Ship986

[usaf-lt-g]

FYI, what you are tapping into is called a bridge plug; these are identified on the schematic as "BS" and then a number. Sorry I didn't read this sooner, but glad you figured out you had to remove the relay carrier to get to them.

Make absolutely sure you tapped into the correct bridge plug, since your perspective is different whether you are looking at the relay carrier from the front vs. the back.

--Brian

THanks Brian, Yep I did a double check to make sure before i plugged anything in. I think she's good to go. Now I just have to figure out how to get the faults cleared, which the TSB mentions. The cool thing was that when I looked at the back of the plugs... all the wires that were previously plugged into them had the same color band as the wires i was plugging in.

Edited June 4, 2008 by usaf-lt-g