Mileage Tampered With?

[jet black]

I have just received my used 06 Boxster from Japan. What i noticed was that the mileage indicating on the dash was 2000miles but certain parts of the car doesn't really reflect the condition of the wear reflective of the mileage, eg. the brake discs were pretty seasoned and worn that look more like it has done 30000miles. The leathers seats looked well used and the overall condition doesn't really seems to fit in.

For those seasoned owners of Porsches, my post to you guys are -

Is it possible for the mileage to be tampered with, without any way of discovering the real mileage?

I know it is kind of easy to change the numbers, however I heard even if the numbers were tampered with, the others systems in the car will not tally with the new mileage and could be easily detected once it is sent to the agent.

I do not have any maintenance records and the previous owner didn't go back to his agent in his own country for maintenance, as I have called in Porsche Japan and enquired.

Is there any other way of finding out the real mileage?

[Popolou]

I've heard of talk that this is easy too, but suspected it to be more relevant to the 986. Still, would be interested to know how winding back the clock is possible.

Nonetheless, yes you can check using the PIWIS the operating hours (or something to that effect) that is clear evidence on the use of the car. There are several posts on this issue and there is an accepted ratio that converts the number of hours into meaningful mileage to help correlate with the mileage on the clock. I think there was talk of approx 30 miles for each hour.

Pop

[White987S]

Yes, I would look at the DME and see how many operationg hours are on the car and the number of starts/ignitions.

There are also 6 Rev Ranges. It would be interesting to see if it had been abused. Look for evidence of ingitions in range 4, 5 and 6.

[jet black]

Yes, I would look at the DME and see how many operationg hours are on the car and the number of starts/ignitions.

There are also 6 Rev Ranges. It would be interesting to see if it had been abused. Look for evidence of ingitions in range 4, 5 and 6.

I know little about all this, how would i be able to find out what you have just mentioned?

[jet black]

I've heard of talk that this is easy too, but suspected it to be more relevant to the 986. Still, would be interested to know how winding back the clock is possible.

Nonetheless, yes you can check using the PIWIS the operating hours (or something to that effect) that is clear evidence on the use of the car. There are several posts on this issue and there is an accepted ratio that converts the number of hours into meaningful mileage to help correlate with the mileage on the clock. I think there was talk of approx 30 miles for each hour.

Pop

wouldn't the hours be able to be tampered with as well? I also read of readers changing the mileage easily. I will feel I was ripped off if i were to find out that the mileage has been tampered with on my car. Guess I need to send it the the mechanics or the agent to confirm my new found worry. By the way, PIWIS means? And what information does it extract exactly for the 987?

[1schoir]

wouldn't the hours be able to be tampered with as well? I also read of readers changing the mileage easily. I will feel I was ripped off if i were to find out that the mileage has been tampered with on my car. Guess I need to send it the the mechanics or the agent to confirm my new found worry. By the way, PIWIS means? And what information does it extract exactly for the 987?

PIWIS is the latest generation tester used by Porsche dealers (it replaced the PST2 Tester).

You can read the hours with a Durametric unit (www.durametric.com), which is more affordable for a DIY'er.

Anything electronic can be tampered with, but you may as well check the hours to see what you might find out.

Regards, Maurice.

[jet black]

wouldn't the hours be able to be tampered with as well? I also read of readers changing the mileage easily. I will feel I was ripped off if i were to find out that the mileage has been tampered with on my car. Guess I need to send it the the mechanics or the agent to confirm my new found worry. By the way, PIWIS means? And what information does it extract exactly for the 987?

PIWIS is the latest generation tester used by Porsche dealers (it replaced the PST2 Tester).

You can read the hours with a Durametric unit (www.durametric.com), which is more affordable for a DIY'er.

Anything electronic can be tampered with, but you may as well check the hours to see what you might find out.

Regards, Maurice.

thanks dude.. i will do that. but first i need to find out who has it (PIWIS), and Porsche agent seems unwilling to do for me.... as my car was not imported by them.. anyway... will let u guys know pretty soon what results i get. cheers

[White987S]

So, what can you do, and will you do, IF you find out the mileage was tampered with?

FYI- my dealership will give me a print out from the DME when I am in there for an oil change.