Ceramic Oil for Engine

[danish]

I was reading about different types of engine oils and found a few articles about Ceramic Oil that can be added to the existing engine oil to improve life and gas consumption among other things. Has anyone tried this? Here are two links:

http://www.speedtuningusa.com/products/spt..._oil00.html#Oil

http://www.americanccf.com/I_Tech%20info%20pg2.htm

Any ideas?

Thanks

Dan

[FlashingBlade]

I was reading about different types of engine oils and found a few articles about Ceramic Oil that can be added to the existing engine oil to improve life and gas consumption among other things. Has anyone tried this? Here are two links:

http://www.speedtuningusa.com/products/spt..._oil00.html#Oil

http://www.americanccf.com/I_Tech%20info%20pg2.htm

Sounds like another Slick50, graphite, snake oil, whatever, additive.

I'd be rather careful pouring anything into my engine that Porsche did not explicitly approve. I assume they know a little bit more about tribology than I do. In the case of slick 50, Dupont considered it an unauthorized use of their product and asked the Slick50 guys to stop advertising it using the Teflon name. IIRC, most of the PTFE ended up stuck in the filter doing little good to the engine. This is not to say that some of these additives don't reduce friction. MoS2 for example decreases friction in grease by 50%, but that does not mean that it's necessarily good to add to your engine. There is more to it then that.

Regarding the ceramic oil additive...I find it suspect that it's only good for engines up to 2.5l. Huh?

[Dennis C]

I was reading about different types of engine oils and found a few articles about Ceramic Oil that can be added to the existing engine oil to improve life and gas consumption among other things. Has anyone tried this? Here are two links:

http://www.speedtuningusa.com/products/spt..._oil00.html#Oil

http://www.americanccf.com/I_Tech%20info%20pg2.htm

Sounds like another Slick50, graphite, snake oil, whatever, additive.

I'd be rather careful pouring anything into my engine that Porsche did not explicitly approve. I assume they know a little bit more about tribology than I do. In the case of slick 50, Dupont considered it an unauthorized use of their product and asked the Slick50 guys to stop advertising it using the Teflon name. IIRC, most of the PTFE ended up stuck in the filter doing little good to the engine. This is not to say that some of these additives don't reduce friction. MoS2 for example decreases friction in grease by 50%, but that does not mean that it's necessarily good to add to your engine. There is more to it then that.

Regarding the ceramic oil additive...I find it suspect that it's only good for engines up to 2.5l. Huh?

I don't know much about tribology when it comes to automotive engines either, but I know that typically introducing a third body between two moving parts results in greater wear, not reduced wear. I would think this is especially true when you introduce a very hard third body particle or particles, like ceramic. It sounds like a bad idea to me.

My Cayenne doesn't even have 30K on the odometer yet, but I have experience with other engines using Mobile 1. I have owned several cars in the past that went over 200K with no additives at all, just regular changes with Mobil 1. I'd stick with the Porsche recommended oil and change it frequently. There's nothing wrong with changing it before 20K miles if you're concerned about engine wear.

That's my 2 cents worth!

[danish]

Thanks for providing your feedback. I will stick to regular oil changes.

Dan